actually i was usually using 640x480. i used 1024x768 because i think the apple would make a good wallpaper. it does, actually.i will post it up on my web site soon.
[link] PearPC - Os X On X86?
Install done. Took about 4 hours total for download, install, setup, and finishing all that up.
click for obligatory screenshot
Read the link I posted about three posts up from this one. That's all you need to know.
Edit: *grumble* Adding this because some idiots on Neowin seem to think that the word "download" automatically means warez. When I said download I meant "download PearPC and the pre-prepped disk image from Emaculation's forums" not "download a warez copy of OS X".
Looks like it might just get to work
Maybe hopping to a stall and grab a copy of OS X may just bring good in future (ie. when pearpc or any other emulators gets well-developed)
I hate to sound like a ****ie, but...well...I guess I am (to this anyway)
went to the pearpc forums, but it seems like I am way behind all the news the past few days. I have no idea what half of the things they are talking about are anyway. I'm assuming this darwin program is a sort of partitioning software? or am I wrong? I see you can install OSX without Darwin...but does that mean I have to have the OSX iso? also...is there a way to run PearPC at larger than 800*600 resolution? I'm running 16*12 on my comp here...and 800*600 would seem just a tad small ![]()
if anyone would mind answering these for me, I woudl be eternally grateful. otherwise, I will just keep looking around those forums
thank you ![]()
Originally posted by MDZ61384@May 18 2004, 06:22 PMI hate to sound like a ****ie, but...well...I guess I am (to this anyway)
went to the pearpc forums, but it seems like I am way behind all the news the past few days. I have no idea what half of the things they are talking about are anyway. I'm assuming this darwin program is a sort of partitioning software? or am I wrong? I see you can install OSX without Darwin...but does that mean I have to have the OSX iso? also...is there a way to run PearPC at larger than 800*600 resolution? I'm running 16*12 on my comp here...and 800*600 would seem just a tad small
if anyone would mind answering these for me, I woudl be eternally grateful. otherwise, I will just keep looking around those forums
thank you
First of all Darwin is the core that OSX is built on
putting it basically Darwin + GUI + Apps = OSX
What you are downloading is the installer CD which can partition your HD using Darwin. I would recommend this it does make it easier when installing Panther. either way you will need a set of OSX CDs (10.2 or higher) to format the newly partitioned drive and install Panther.
Try the PearPC forum on Emaculation.com theres some good tutorials on there.
as for the resolution you can edit the config to go up to 1024x768 but this creates further problems >.<
I have edited the title of the thread as to be more informative with regards to what it is that we are discussing here ![]()
Too many other threads announcing the availability of PearPc in a redundant fashion ![]()
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// Seph
thank you for your help Anarchi5t.
few more questions if you wouldn't mind answering them:
1.) do I need to partition either of my hard drives? both are NTFS, one is a RAID Array and the other is just a storage drive. ideally, I'd like to run OSX off the storage drive, though I'm not sure if this will create problems. am I going to have to partition that drive?
I am checking out the tutorials right now. One claims to be able to install osx *without* using darwin. Darwin or no Darwin, I will at least to have CD1 of OSX 10.3, correct? I have read that CD's 2 and 3 are additional cd's, but I'm not sure if they are used in the install process at all. I'm assuming I have to have a burned ISO copy of 10.3...hrm...wonder if I could run the iso off my HD using Daemon Tools...
again, thanks very much for your help. really appreciate it
Originally posted by Autumnmist@May 16 2004, 02:12 AMInstall done. Took about 4 hours total for download, install, setup, and finishing all that up.
click for obligatory screenshot
Read the link I posted about three posts up from this one. That's all you need to know.
Edit: *grumble* Adding this because some idiots on Neowin seem to think that the word "download" automatically means warez. When I said download I meant "download PearPC and the pre-prepped disk image from Emaculation's forums" not "download a warez copy of OS X".
is it Fast or it is not. i mean can you see the Genie Effect as normal or it takes hours to complete ?
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Originally posted by MDZ61384@May 18 2004, 07:02 PMthank you for your help Anarchi5t.
few more questions if you wouldn't mind answering them:
1.) do I need to partition either of my hard drives? both are NTFS, one is a RAID Array and the other is just a storage drive. ideally, I'd like to run OSX off the storage drive, though I'm not sure if this will create problems. am I going to have to partition that drive?
I am checking out the tutorials right now. One claims to be able to install osx *without* using darwin. Darwin or no Darwin, I will at least to have CD1 of OSX 10.3, correct? I have read that CD's 2 and 3 are additional cd's, but I'm not sure if they are used in the install process at all. I'm assuming I have to have a burned ISO copy of 10.3...hrm...wonder if I could run the iso off my HD using Daemon Tools...
again, thanks very much for your help. really appreciate it
You need to download the 3GB HD from PearPC, DOnt use the 6GB as its not supported and it does cause problems. You will need to shorten you OSX installation to under 3GB I got mine to 1.5GB . You wont need much more than that as OSX is not really useable yet
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/downloads.html
Extract it to you computer it will download as 5KB but extract as 3GB so stick this on whichever drive you wish but you can only use a virtual HD. Configure this file in your config and then partition this with Darwin.
Then boot your OSX CD and run the disk utility and erase (format) the drive to Mac Extended (non-journalised if you can) whether you use Darwin or not you will need the OSX CDs
A quick tutorial....
Config the virtual HD as the HD in the Config
Configure your darwin.iso as the CD
Follow these directions http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/installdarwin.html
(Dont install Darwin only partition your drives with it)
Change your config to your CD image osx1031.iso
Boot the osx CD and select disk utility from the FinderBar
select disk2 and erase then select Extended
quit the disk utility and select the HD visible in the installer
continue with the OSX installation....
your config drive should look like this
pci_ide0_master_installed = 1pci_ide0_master_image = "MacOSXPanther.img"
pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed = 1
pci_ide0_slave_image = "osx1031.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"
now that was quick
hope it helps.......
3 virgins, 3 camels and an ounce of gold to you for your help
very helpful. thank you so much. I will try to install it on my computer when I am finished re-installing my programs (gotta love formatting).
one more quick question...this means I need to download darwin right? [edit] read first page of the link you gave me. yep...I am downloading this thing. this should be interesting
Yeah sorry I forgot the link - http://developer.apple.com/darwin/
download it from Apple, opendarwin.org seems to be down.
the size dosnt always read right downloading aswell the file is around 640mb...
Hope ya get it working!
neither download seems to be working. both opendarwin/apple downloads are stalled at 0% in leechget (great download manager btw). theres a darwin7.02.iso.gz on overnet...that isn't downloading either. ah well...I guess I wait. this is gonna be a looooooooooong process! lol
Hi. Been gone a long time & sorry I can't stay long... yet. But I thought some of you may need help.
You Don't need Darwin. Even the 6 gig image will work great. Just go through the installation process and at the point where you're supposed to select the Destination drive, click on Installer on the Menu Bar and select "Open Disk Utility". You should see a drive and a cd icon on the left side. Be sure the drive is selected and then click on the Partition tab. Partition the drive with whatever name you want to use. Quit the Disk Utility and now you should see your drive on the Install window. Select your drive and before you click on continue, make sure to select Options first and Select the Erase Disk to format it to Extended. Now you can continue. Good luck.
Not sure who said the 6 GB image had problems... it works fine.
Loaded 10.2 in under 4 hours and will be running the upgrade CD to 10.3 tomorrow.
As for usefulness... it's not as bad as you would think.
No networking under windows... that sucks, but it does actualy move along very nicely.
Not bad considering I'm running this on a PIII 1.13 Ghz laptop.
You just need to play with the refresh rates a bit and stay as far away from 1024x768 as possible.
I know it looks tempting, but it really does slow things down alot.
Wreaks havoc on my laptop video card as well. 16 MB ATI card.
Anyway... like I said before... it's still only an alpha release.
What do you expect?!?
Nightly builds are now available
http://www.richardgoodwin.com/pearpc/
DO NOT CONTACT PearPC as they are unsupported!
pre0.2 is now available and supports 1024x768 and higher memory.
I have Mac 'Panther' running on 0.2 for P4 running and it is VERY smooth and quick
Lifting the memory limit come in handy as the dock and exposé are responsive and actually useable and the finder resizes in almost real-time now (Y)
There are still some slight redraw issuse with labels & dock but other than that I havnt run into a single problem!
Heres a screenshot I took
Has anyone got any success on connecting the Mac (in pearpc) onto the internet? I can open IE but there's no connection... Ideas, anyone?
Sound too, anyone got it?
i imagine if it's possible at all, you'll have to establish a connection via system preferences. but you should check the pearPC page to check the limitations. for certain there is no sound at this stage of the game, as you can see from the release notes.
Originally posted by Synthesis@May 19 2004, 10:52 AMHas anyone got any success on connecting the Mac (in pearpc) onto the internet? I can open IE but there's no connection... Ideas, anyone?
Sound too, anyone got it?
Sound emulation is not possible yet and Network is only available on Linux
i havent had problems with the 0.2pre (nightly from the 18th - EXE time)
seems to me there's a SLIGHT VERY SMALL TEEEEENY performance boost. but really neglectible.
it all STILL works ![]()
so what value to I have to enter for lets say 512 or 1024 MB of memory? I don't get thos 0x1000 whatever digits,...
^^ would like to know this too. I have 1 GB of ram...woo...not even sure if its supported yet, but if it is that would be great
thanks anarchi5t for the link to the 0.2 pre build
one easy way is to open Calc, make it scientific. click Dec. now go
MEM * 1048576
and then convert to Hex.
your new memory is 0xRESULT
as in, 256 is 0X10000000
thanks very much. mine is 0X40000000
(which would make sense b/c thats 4 256's...duh *insert AIM foot smiley here*)
anarchi5t...what are the specs on your computer? do you notice a big slowdown with 1024*768? I have a 3 ghz machine w./ a gig of ram...ati all in wonder 9800 pro video card too if that helps.
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