[link] PearPC - Os X On X86?

Hey: a new emulator called PearPC seems to be able to run OS X on x86 machines:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/index.html

Check out the screenshots:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html

As always, some scoopage is over on this crappy site all the time:

http://www.emaculation.com/

#159447

Snazzy. Hope this takes off. I wonder if apple'll try and stop this?

#159449

This should have a [link] tag...

Be warned "Don't use it on important data, it WILL destroy them sooner or later! However if you are brave enough to try it out fetch one of the builds or the source." :lol:

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#159450

by x86 you mean you can run oxs on a pc right??

#159458

On an x86 pc, cause macs are pc's too :smartass: for what the screenshots show, youll need to run it from linux

#159459

How many are the panther's cds?

Cause I have a free HD with Linux, non vital data and i would like to try it, just to be able to open dmg files, but before i got do download panther :)

#159462

Don't stake up your hopes too high...

The about says its speed is 1/500th e.g. on a 3 GHz PC you'll be able to

emulate a 6 MHz G4! Booting OS X alone should take a few hours.

Same issue has been seen with Bochs, which emulates a x86 in software.

Clock accurate measurements allow for a 33 MHz emulation on a GHz PC,

which is excellent for DOS and Windows 3.11, barely tolerable for Windows 95

and unfortunately "Tango Uniform" (totally useless) for booting 2000 or XP.

However, if pearpc evolves at the same pace as Bochs did, it may be useful

for booting OS 7/8/9 in a tolerable manner but you still won't be having

a genuine experience with OS X, e.g. booting it in minutes to dismantle a DMG.

Since the market seems to be there, I'd go waiting for a PowerPC PCI-board

instead, which should cost the same as a new eMac, if I'm any judge.

Sorrow.

#159474

cant this run on windows too?

#159476

Originally posted by Enhanced@May 10 2004, 12:13 PM

cant this run on windows too?

According to the about its a valid Win32 app

THe specs show that it will emulate a 'sorta' G3 that is 500 slower than the host so the program is quite slow and buggy but promising

#159477

Originally posted by Bicet@May 10 2004, 11:32 AM

, but before i got do download panther :)

But you wouldn't really do that would you? Because that's illegal, and discussing it here isn't allowed ;)

#159478

Ive got a Panther lying round somwhere I might give this a try it includes documentation to install Mac OSX... From the look of it its like Virtual PC it simulates a Mac to run the OS so it will share traits with VPC where as your PC will be used to run the program which simulates a software Mac, VPC only has 8mb software video Im guessing this will be much less cant wait for future releases.

Specification of the Mac PearPC simulates

# CPU: Sort of G3, no altivec yet. Includes a minimalistic debugger. The CPU is completely deterministic, optimal for OS-development.

# CPU JITC-X86: A very fast CPU for x86 systems that translates the PowerPC code on-the-fly to native code. Still a little bit experimental.

# PCI-Brige: A barebone PCI-Bridge, enough to work with.

# IDE-Controller: Sort of CMD646 with bus-mastering support. You can attach IDE-Harddisk(s) and/or IDE-CDROM(s) (represented through files or devices on the host).

# PIC: A programmable interrupt controller (sort of Heathrow).

# VIA-Cuda: With attached Mouse and Keyboard.

# Network Controller: Emulates a 3COM 3C90x, works currently only on POSIX with /dev/tun support.

# NVRAM: Capable of storing 8KiB non-volatile memory.

# USB: A non-usable USB-hub, but enough to make the OS think that there is an USB-hub.

# PROM: Sort of openfirmware. Ugly and contains a lot of hacks, but enough to support Yaboot and BootX and to boot from HFS/HFS+ partitions

lol Ive just noticed the 'Plans' for future releases at the bottom " Fix remaining bugs" :lol:

#159479

this looks very interesting

i hope to see more from this app soon ;)

im determening wether to try this now or wait a while for better funcionality

#159488

I'm tempted to try it... but knowing it will be something like 500 times slower makes me think its not worth it... yet :D

#159494

I have a spare computer in the other room so I am thinking I might try this. (Aswell as 10.3, god knows why, because I don't even have a mac) Do you think it will run on a 64bit Proc?

And what is the difference?

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pearpc-0.1-win32-jitc.zip

pearpc-0.1-win32.zip

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Edit, "Because of some equally stupid reasons PearPC will only run on 32-bit architectures. Yes, this also shouldn't be hard to fix."

#159496

I just hope it isn't one big fluke / hoax that is not true. I mean, how do we know its not the mac-on-linux (PPC) screenshots? We dont'. Until someone tries this thing on their machine and actually gets linux to run this on a PC (x86), I really am VERY skeptical. Perhaps a little proof before getting our hopes up?

Sorry if I'm wrong lol - just a lot of these things have appeared here before and I REALLY don't want it to be a hoax.

(HAS ANYONE TRIED THIS THING YET?)

#159498

If someone can tell me which one to use, under windows. I will get this working by the end of the day!

pearpc-0.1-win32-jitc.zip

or

pearpc-0.1-win32.zip

#159502

http://www.maconlinux.org/

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

#159504

Originally posted by GSF@May 10 2004, 10:57 PM

http://www.maconlinux.org/

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Win 98 on Mac OS on Linux....

Jesus I'm flabbergasted.

#159507

Oh my, Mac-On-Linux looks verrrrry interesting... *heads back to look in more detail*

Doh, if only I had a spare PowerPC system lying arond

#159509

Originally posted by ji eun@May 10 2004, 06:05 PM

Jesus I'm flabbergasted.

/me gently pulls on his mom's skirt as he looks up and says: "mommy, i never want to be that"

#159510

Maybe I will just install linux, then 10.3

"Client OS support:"

"- Mac OS X (10.1-10.3.3)"

"- Mac OS 7.5.2 to 9.2.2"

"- Linux"

#159511

What useless software imho. :canadian:

#159542

Originally posted by lostspyder@May 10 2004, 11:18 AM

What useless software imho. :canadian:

I'm sure you have your reasons behind that opinion, but I have to ask: why did you use the "canadian" smily to accompany the notion of uselessness? :6 :D

#159548

Originally posted by Cerebral@May 10 2004, 04:30 PM

I'm sure you have your reasons behind that opinion, but I have to ask: why did you use the "canadian" smily to accompany the notion of uselessness?  :6  :D

Oh thats easy, i just like that smiley and use it often for no real reason. Like here :canadian:

Or here :canadian:

mabie here :canadian:

But not here

#159552