Aqua-Soft ForumsUse tables is hell a lot easier, why ? because of IE 
iChat bubbles in Miranda!
hey russelc.... thanks for helping out 
if u can work ur magick with this the same way u did on MMad then... :cool:
yeah..i already fixed it using tables.
would Pe8er and pinchfil mind if it was fixed with tables?
cool
can u send me it over msn plz?
idk... i *think* it was pichfl's idea to use DIVs..., but im not sure... well we could use tables for now and keep the DIVs as a side project or something... :slant:
i can't send it yet as its not working 100% properly yet
ah ok... well whenever it works then 
well i spose i can use this time to stop miranda crashing immediately after i start it... not much point having the iChat look if i cant use it :slant: lol
update IEview, latest is 1.0.19
For kicks, I redesigned it using a hybrid of tables and divs. Most of pichfl's code is still hanging around, but I've thrown a table infrastructure around it.
I don't have Miranda, so I can't test. When I renamed it to .html and previewed in IE (after a change or two) it looked right, though.
Anyone wanna give 'er a test run?
(btw, I personally prefer divs, as they're more organizationally "correct", but when they don't work, they don't work. 
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ps. Rename the file to .rar (remove the .zip extention) before uncompressing. The board software won't let me upload .rars
-=edit=- Damn, russelc, didn't see you were already working on this. Sorry if I stole your thunder. Still not even sure if it works in miranda though. -=/edit=-
-=edit2=- Attachment Removed: Pichfl and I are cleaning up the code and he'll host it on his site. Link should be available in.. oh... 20 minutes maybe? Seems to work. -=/edit=-
Cerebral, that worked for me, I dont see any problems with it.
Edit: wait just a minute, is there an option that I have to turn on to enable avators? Because I just get the noavator pics.
thx @ cerebral - hit me on IM ;-)
I think we should write some notes, repack it and load it on my server
Edit: wait just a minute, is there an option that I have to turn on to enable avators? Because I just get the noavator pics.
Beats me, I don't use Miranda. We'll have to wait until the "experienced" people come along.
for all who waited so long for it:
http://www.einserver.de/files/private/aqua...at-Template.rar
read the f***ing readme.txt - you are able to chose colors, textsizes and fonts, all important lines are commented
for all who waited so long for it:
Also note: Pichfl and I (and Vague up there) seem to be having trouble with Avatar support. Unfortunately, we know nearly jack about Miranda and IEView. I'm crediting it to an IEView bug, 'cause I don't think the template's wrong. Anyone prove me wrong, good stuff; upload it.
looks like someone got it working before me heh..i kinda gave up trying in the middle because i was hungry
then after i started trying to see if i could do the header things with the avatar only in the top bar along with incoming name and conversation start time. refer to this image for what i'm trying to do
all the visual parts of it is done, i only need to be able to get the incoming avatar, incoming name and conversation start time to show up there...the javascript i tried was unsuccessful
its a pitty we can't use the Gecko engine from Mozilla/Firefox... CSS2, PNGs, and more... oh well maybe some other year
that looks nice russelc are the grey bubbles from the previous convo?
@pichfl: cool thanks - hehe nice to see my name in credits :cool: thanks
@Cerebral: U cud try reinstalling miranda to a different folder... maybe that would fix the avatar problem?
and anyone know why mine keeps crashing? i fixed half of it... i can change all the settings i like... but as soon as i get or send a message, it crashes... it only seemed to load half of my bubble when i sent a message before it crashed last time... cud it be a template problem? i will try that new one now tho
@Cerebral: U cud try reinstalling miranda to a different folder... maybe that would fix the avatar problem?
Hm, I suppose I should have been more clear. Apparently Vague and pichfl can't get the avatars to correctly display. I, on the other hand, helped pichfl test and wasn't using Miranda myself, so I couldn't see it either way on my side.
hmm ok... well ok then pichfl and/or vague should try it ... hehe
but plz some1... any suggestions about my crashy-ness? :slant:
Cerebral, is it possible to make the avator of the black man a little big smaller? It looks huge.
its a pitty we can't use the Gecko engine from Mozilla/Firefox... CSS2, PNGs, and more... oh well maybe some other yearthat looks nice russelc
i think someone asked about that on the miranda forums. they dont want to use the gecko engine because it uses more resources and would be alot more difficult to code in. it makes sense that the gecko engine uses more resources as its not built into the OS.
the grey bubbles are historical messages 
(from previous conversations, yes)
what i did is just a mod of my already released smooth operator port (shown in screenshot). the screenshot is originally the smooth operator template (on adiumx) and modded by someone else to have that bar and a smooth scrolling feature (don't ask me for it) heh.
ah ok.
nice :cool:
but i still prefer my iChat bubbles tbh tho... maybe i'll try some other styles sometime like adium or summin :slant:
Cerebral, is it possible to make the avator of the black man a little big smaller? It looks huge.
I imagine all you'd have to do is resize the "noavatar.jpg" file that's contained in the package.
For some reason when I resize it, i get a red X in the container.
Actually, i got it to work, now I just need to know how to choose my own avatar and I'm all set.
Edit #2: Wow, I figured everything out. Thanks anyway
uh... about the plugins... atm IEView is at 1.0.1.9 aparenrly, which i've got...
but im confused about the tab view SRMM one...
theres these two:
http://www.miranda-im.org/download/details...iewfile&id=1885
http://www.miranda-im.org/download/details...iewfile&id=1157
which one is it?
and what exactly does it do? do i really need it? i dont use tabs - i prefer one window per convo...
and any one know what could be causing miranda to crash everytime i open a convo window, even if its empty and i dont chat?
i am using the latest version of all plugins (i got "Wassup", an auto-updater plugin), and this mod is also (as far as i know) the latest version
thanks...
EDIT: ok i now know i need to use tabSRMM instead of either of the above two... and it seems to work for now...
i think someone asked about that on the miranda forums. they dont want to use the gecko engine because it uses more resources and would be alot more difficult to code in. it makes sense that the gecko engine uses more resources as its not built into the OS.
Well, not exactly.
Personally, I would love to use the Gecko engine. There are, however, a few problems:
The ActiveX wrapper for Gecko is far from being complete and it also is pretty buggy. It works decently for showing simple HTML pages, but not for building pages dynamically (a requirement for something like IEView).
So, given this, the only alternative left is to use Gecko "natively" via XPCom. Yes, possible, but XPCom isn't easy to handle. Downside #2 is that such a plugin will have to be statically linked against Gecko & Co. which means it would be *at least* 4-5 MB. Linking dynamically is not an option, because XPCom is a moving target, many interfaces are not frozen and subject to change, so, by linking dynamically, you're going to ask for big troubles if someone has a single "wrong" DLL on his system.
Maybe one day, when I have the time At the moment, I'am busy with tabSRMM and working a bit on IEView to fix a few bugs, bring in simple text formatting, and test the recently added unicode support. We (the author of IEView and me) are closely working together to make these two plugins playing together better than ever before
cool, thanks for that Shivan... good luck if, and when you start work in it
or maybe we could start a new engine? hehe probly not...
and i just noticed that this is post number 400 in this thread :cool: lol