Hi Lynch,
I'm having the same problem as SAT. I did exactly what you propose but after I restart Phoenix the bookkmarkbar is either invisible or not there. Clicking on anything does do much. The only thing that differs iconwise is the width of the replaced Safari icon 19x19 and 15x15 as opposed to 19x? of the rectangular sized "fish". Any ideas? Thanks, man
Shotta
Originally posted by Felix187@Jan 19 2003, 09:23 PMi think you might be able to do it in ResHacker. bust up the phoenix EXE and check in the strings section... that might work. it's my .02...
peace
Tried... didn't work 
I made a throbber out of this icon
I am either not explaining very well or you guys are not understanding - in fact, i'm having a hard time understanding you. I will think some more for you..................
Originally posted by lynchknot@Jan 20 2003, 09:02 AMNo reason to be shameful. What is FL?
I am not understanding your message.
Make sure you Close Phoenix >
Change icons by making sure they are the right extension and size > rename to same as what is in the jar > delete or overwrite what is in the jar - I just drag and drop into the jar > restart Phoenix
>No reason to be shameful. What is FL?
>I am not understanding your message.
I am sorry for me to have not been able to understand your kind message, My English is weak.
To it, I am poor also at telling a message.
I am thankful to you.
Hi Lynch,
maybe I didn't explain correctly. What I did: resized existing Safari.png after looking at the original fish icon size to 15x15 (for small) and 19x19 (for big), extracted compact.jar, put in the new Safari icons and renamed them to the original names, zipped everything to compact.jar and put it back. That's the only change I did. Still, the new compact.jar does not work.
Well what I did was add "*" to the front of the Print button entries in your browser.css and deleted the print-large.png and print-small.png (spider icon) from your theme's .jar (basically removing a icon for print). (probally use a different png later for this.)
Then I took a copy of the print-large.png and print-small.png,
renamed them to spider-large.png and spider-small.png. Went into the compact.jar edited the compact.css to use the spider-small.png, C'n'P the button info in the css for small,
changing the "small" in the script to "large"...
Added the Image region info for the icons for each of the icon states... added compact.css, spider-large.png and spider-small.pngback to the compact.jar and deleted the fish png's.
Walla... the Spider icon is now the drop menu for file, edit, view...
here is my compact.css...
/* $Id: compact.css,v 1.2.4.2 2003/01/18 00:04:55 orbit Exp $ */
@namespace url(";http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
#compact-menu-button {
list-style-image: url("chrome://compact/skin/spider-large.png");
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 35px 24px 0px)
}
#compact-menu-button:hover {
}
#compact-menu-button[disabled=true] {
}
#compact-menu-button:hover:active,
#compact-menu-button[checked=true] {
}
toolbar[iconsize=small] #compact-menu-button {
list-style-image: url("chrome://compact/skin/spider-small.png");
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 26px 24px 0px)
}
toolbar[iconsize=small] #compact-menu-button:hover {
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 54px 24px 28px);
}
toolbar[iconsize=small] #compact-menu-button[disabled=true] {
}
toolbar[iconsize=small] #compact-menu-button:hover:active {
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 26px 24px 0px);
}
toolbar[iconsize=small] #compact-menu-button[checked=true] {
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 54px 24px 28px) !important;
}
toolbar[iconsize=Large] #compact-menu-button {
list-style-image: url("chrome://compact/skin/spider-small.png");
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 35px 24px 0px)
}
toolbar[iconsize=Large] #compact-menu-button:hover {
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 89px 24px 54px);
}
toolbar[iconsize=Large] #compact-menu-button[disabled=true] {
}
toolbar[iconsize=Large] #compact-menu-button:hover:active {
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 35px 24px 0px);
}
toolbar[iconsize=Large] #compact-menu-button[checked=true] {
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 89px 24px 54px) !important;
}
#somethingLogo {
list-style-image: url("chrome://compact/skin/spider-large.png");
-moz-image-region: rect(0px 35px 24px 0px)
}
dunno why its hard to understand... guess you have to have a programmers mentality
Another neat trick for WB users and Pheonix...
For those that want to keep the brushed topic bar (ala Judge's iSkin) and scrollbars using safariplainNB056.jar skin... but are using say Judge's OSXP NG or Smoke's Jaguar WB skins. Here is a great work around...
After deleting mozilla from the WB per application settings.
and renaming pheonix.exe to mozilla.exe to get WB to skin it correctly...
Add Mozilla.exe (renamed from pheonix.exe) back to the per application settings, then choose "use specified skin", and chose what ever the brushed WB skin is (ie: Judge's iSkin).
Walla Pheonix is now using its own skin that is seperate from the rest of your default WB skin settings.
Originally posted by lynchknot@Jan 15 2003, 09:53 AMWould you guys rather have this style of addressbar history button or the blue one that I used?
I would like to see the use of the snapback myself.
Or at least where to edit... Having difficulty finding it.
Also bring back the little circle after the address bar.
Take a look at my screenshot http://home.attbi.com/~lynchknot/phoenix.html
I am using the little "chevron" type icons for large and small.
You don't have to pull the whole jar out of Phoenix - just double click and open the jar. - then rename your icons and drag and drop them into the jar - overwritting the existing icons - then just close the jar. No need to re-insert the jar back into the Phoenix files - no need to edit .css. I am assuming you are opening the jars with Winrar?
I think the snap back button looks aliased. I do have the older versions of the theme in storage if you want.
MageGuru, this history drop down marker is located in Global > arrow - it's called URL.gif. It's navigation is located in Autocomplete.css
My feelings exactly. Has somebody thought about porting Iceman's "reference" brushed VS? Or maybe Smoke's upcoming release will do the trick.
Originally posted by lynchknot@Jan 20 2003, 04:48 PMTake a look at my screenshot http://home.attbi.com/~lynchknot/phoenix.html
I am using the little "chevron" type icons for large and small.
You don't have to pull the whole jar out of Phoenix - just double click and open the jar. - then rename your icons and drag and drop them into the jar - overwritting the existing icons - then just close the jar. No need to re-insert the jar back into the Phoenix files - no need to edit .css. I am assuming you are opening the jars with Winrar?
I think the snap back button looks aliased. I do have the older versions of the theme in storage if you want.
MageGuru, this history drop down marker is located in Global > arrow - it's called URL.gif. It's navigation is located in Autocomplete.css
Hi lynchknot,
It solved by using WinRAR!!!
I am very glad!!!
Thank you for teaching, 
SAT
Originally posted by magbi9@Jan 20 2003, 08:11 AMWe need a better brushed wb skin then iSkin...
That we can use with safari(phoenix)
well see both iSkin and Iceman's VS are both correct depending what you are talking about...
iSkin is exactly what Max Rudeberg's OSX skin looks like, thus almost all windows should use a brushed style it uses...
Now Iceman's VS is using the same brushed texture that iApps itself uses ie: iPhoto, Safari, QT, etc... these apps are not skinned when using alt. themes in OSX, Thus Iceman's VS technically isn't correct and shouldn't skin everthing in windows. (If you ran Max's Brushed and opened any iApps on OSX, you would indeed be using 2 different bushed textures.)
Unfortunetly you can't use WB and a VS at the same time...
(That would solve a lot of issues, cause programs not using WB's for skinning would automatically be using the VS.)
So my work around would be good, cause if Iceman's VS was ported to WB's, it could then be used to skin Pheonix on its own. Meanwhile all other apps would still be using iSkin.
Originally posted by lynchknot@Jan 20 2003, 07:48 AMMageGuru, this history drop down marker is located in Global > arrow - it's called URL.gif. It's navigation is located in Autocomplete.css
in which .jar?
I got a copy of the snapback image that I made that is an anti-aliased .gif so I don't need a copy...
thanks though
[edit]
I found it
wow great work goin on so far guys! I hope one of you who are finished will post their phoenix folder up for download (ask me for hosting) so that the whole commmunity can share it.
Guys I'm real real new to this phoenix business.
I tried it with Lynchknot's theme but I'm real stuck.
So I uninstalled... see if you guys can rekindle my enthousiasm for Safari skinning.
Basically the problem was that it was real complicated to guess your way through phoenix. All that trinity stuff? The three files chrome user, etc? I didn't really care for user settings at all.
But when I loaded the theme, I had to manually drag and drop buttons to the toolbar... also the scrollbars were huge and they were square? (I'm using iceman Jag 2.01)
I just gave up it was too weird...
Isn't there like an FAQ for an aquaskinning person, just on how to install the safari theme? I can't wade through 30 pages of Mozilla FAQ.
Thanks more than words can express! The Safari theme is the best!! Phoenix is a great browser. I never would have heard of either if not for this post and others at aqua-soft.
to Glitzychiwuawa:
You just install the skin at the download site, and then go to tools (in the tool bar) and select preferences, then click on themes and extentions. You will see on the right the themes that are installed. Click on safari and click OK. All I had to do to get the buttons to line up was right click the toolbar and select customize, and then close that without changing any settings, and it was set.
Originally posted by Glitzychiwuawa@Jan 23 2003, 07:40 PMGuys I'm real real new to this phoenix business.
I tried it with Lynchknot's theme but I'm real stuck.
So I uninstalled... see if you guys can rekindle my enthousiasm for Safari skinning.
Basically the problem was that it was real complicated to guess your way through phoenix. All that trinity stuff? The three files chrome user, etc? I didn't really care for user settings at all.
But when I loaded the theme, I had to manually drag and drop buttons to the toolbar... also the scrollbars were huge and they were square? (I'm using iceman Jag 2.01)
I just gave up it was too weird...
Isn't there like an FAQ for an aquaskinning person, just on how to install the safari theme? I can't wade through 30 pages of Mozilla FAQ.
I'll be writting up a tutorial for modding Phoenix pretty soon...
It will be a new Topic, and i'll request that no one post in that topic and to have it pinned... so the tutorial is always clean, and you don't have to wade through 100's of replys.
@ MageGuru
When you start posting your tutorial, I am sure that lots and lots and lots of people will be VERY grateful. I for one will surely be ;-).
I'm using Iceman's Aqua VS. Is there any way to make title bar also brushed when I use lynchknot's safari skin?
is safari exist in aqua version (with stripes) ?
Originally posted by digitheatre@Jan 26 2003, 01:12 AMI'm using Iceman's Aqua VS. Is there any way to make title bar also brushed when I use lynchknot's safari skin?
is safari exist in aqua version (with stripes) ?
lynchknot currently has 3 versions of his theme...
You want to use either safari plain 0.5x or safari plain NB 0.5x
I might have to take it down!
was just reading the Phoenix forums over at Mozillazine because I had heard that someone created a Safari theme for Phoenix.During my looking around I came upon the website for the theme and then noticed that their rotating screenshot had a familiar appearance.
See it here
sKrue's intellectual property rights have been infringed! Sue! Sue! Sue! :-D
It would seem that the maker of the theme has been trying to contact you, so maybe you already knew about it and gave your permission.
How does it feel to be copied along side Apple? Your work bringing some bit of beauty to Windows users? ;-)
I don't find the present brushed skin to be convincing. I like better the brushed aluminum skin found on most iTunes or Jaguar Themes.
I also don't like the spider at all.
1. It looks too simplistic
2. I don't like arachnoids
3. It does not project a logo of pride. I don't care if that is what Apple uses. There's many things Apple did right and there are some things it did wrong.
I think a better logo or throbber would be the blue sphere network icon. That would make a better throbber I think.
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