10 Reasons Why Y'z Dock Is Better Than Objectdock

If you are going to throw insults at me, remember that this is MY OPINION!!!

First before I begin the countdown list, I will post an image of my desktop using ObjectDock on the left, and Y'Z dock on the right. And this is not a competition on what is a better program, it is a competition on what best emulates the Apple Macintosh OS X Dock.

10. Y'Z dock uses docklets (I am aware of the release of ObjectDock .99).

9. Y'Z dock has the ability to toggle the animation of the opening of a program. ObjectDock does not.

8. Can change the indicator (for programs) easily in Y'Z dock, with ObjectDock you have to replace the existing file.

7. Can change the poof easily in Y'Z dock, with ObjectDock you have to replace the existing file.

6. Y'Z dock uses the visual style in XP for their program (see screenshot), ObjectDock uses the standard look.

5. Y'Z dock has multi-monitor support. ObjectDock does not.

4. Y'Z dock has sensitivity and delay time for auto hide. ObjectDock does not.

3. Can change label, edge, and shadow colors and transparencies

2. Y'Z dock can have separators wherever you want, ObjectDock cannot add separators.

1. Although ObjectDock has smoother animations, Y'Z dock has the animations that are most like the Apple Macintosh OS X dock, has the OS X feel.

#47814

MobyDock is completly hardware accelerated.

#47816

MobyDock isn't bad, I just wanted to compare ObjectDock and Y'Z Dock...

#47817

Mobydock sucks with my computer.

#47819

I didn't like it because I had to install DirectX 9. Not that I don't like DX 9, but I had to install that to use something else...I hate that. Specially when I can get another program that, in my opinion, works better.

#47823

I'm a die-hard Yz user. I've tried OD but didn't like it. I'm willing to give it another chance when .99 comes out- Especially because Albeik is going to write docklets for it.

#47825

Adding to the list (and this is just for comparison)

11. Dragging a shortcut to the dock. Y'z creates a shortcut item to the "real" link rather than create a shortcut item with a link to the shortcut file like in Object Dock.

12. Y'z Dock gives you more properties of a Dock item. You can can Add the "Work folder" and how the command is executed in "Show command:".

13. You can select a different language with use Y'z.

14. Dock positioning is more flexible with Y'z with its "Margin" option

15. Distance between Indicator and the icon is properly set compared to OD (it tends to overlap).

thats what I have so far...

#47827

albeik, all right! more!

keep adding if you feel the need people!

#47830

But Y'Z Dock is 'dead' isnt't it ?

If so ,what is the point of comparing it

with 'live' app?

#47835

Is coming out with 10 reasons really necessary?

more than three quarters of the people here already use yz dock even though it's already dead.

Whats the point of coming up with reasons cause the majority uses it already.

I'd rather have a "10 reasons why mobydock or objectdock is better than yz dock".

This thread is like a cheap shot at the other dock developers who arent appreciated too much.

a little disclaimer: this is just "MY OPINION"

#47837

@crni:

You don't have to think about it in a negative way. This thread, for example, can help developers of the Object Dock to realize the enhancements needed and make it even a better application.

#47839

3/4 of the people use Y'z Dock? I doubt that. I Think ill start another poll, we havent had one for a while.

#47847

@ contrasutra, that sounds like a good idea.

@DinoJr, like albeik said, this may help developers of ObjectDock and MobyDock, even though that wasn't my original intent...adn even though it may be dead, it is a popular dock!

#47850

Originally posted by lou_dude88@Aug 17 2003, 07:09 AM

And this is not a competition on what is a better program, it is a competition on what best emulates the Apple Macintosh OS X Dock.

Sorry to burst your bubble but if it is about what "best emulates" the Apple OS 10.2 or Jaguar version, then you have some misconstrued points.

Point 10: Apple doesn't officially support Docklets and they don't come with the standard OS

Point 8: Apple's dock does NOT allow you to change the indicator at all.

Point 7: Poof cannot easily be changed either with OS X

Point 6: What does XP's Visual Style have to do with OS X?

Point 4: The real Apple dock does NOT have Autohide DELAY nor SENSITIVITY.

Point 3: You can't easily change label, edge, shadows or tranparencies in OS X either.

Point 2: I have never found a way to officially add separators to Apple's dock.

So only your points 1,5 and 9 are valid. That makes 3 reasons why Yz dock "emulates" Apple's dock more realistically.

See Apple's original dock preferences screen below

#47859

Originally posted by albeik@Aug 17 2003, 12:52 AM

Dock positioning is more flexible with Y'z with its "Margin" option

I really likes that option...

The others (I mean the whole list) can be discussed

#47867

Originally posted by GameBoyzGB+Aug 17 2003, 02:54 AM-->

QUOTE(GameBoyzGB @ Aug 17 2003, 02:54 AM)

#47871

Sounds like, without the windows-minimize-to-dock function and the genie effect, then, Y'z Dock is even better than OSX's.

-cherrysoul

#47902

I understand what you are saying GameBoyzGB, and I have seen the dock preferences, I have about 15 computers running OS X that I am working with right now...

What I am trying to say is that changing those features gets the proper dock feel. I know that OS X does not have all of the features that the docks we know have, but if you change the right settings, you can get exactly what the OS X dock is and feels like.

IE: The Trash is separated from the rest of the icons by a separator in OS X. ObjectDock cannot do that, have the Trash on one side and the Programs on the other. Y'Z dock has the features to be able to put any of the icons on either side, to emulate OS X. If you see my screenshot, you see the dock below has how some items would be placed as if it was in OS X.

And the XP Visual Style thing, I meant that the dock preferences for Y'Z Dock look more like an OS X's preferences panel would be, not like ObjectDocks, it looks to blocky (very Windows 9x/2000/ME)

Louie

#47904

Well i just hope(well i know) that Jeff`s reading our suggestions. Separators and MULTIPLE dock instances r all i need from OD!

#47922

Hehe, it's good to see an active hot-topic on the Boards! Like your points Gameboyz LOL!

Anyway, on with the discussions.

If it works on your PC, there is only one word in Docks......

Moby.

Over and Out.

#47933

i have used all3 docks and i gotta Say I love yz dock Moby ran like Crap on my box with a FX9600 Ultra OD i just dont like Cant add extra seperators Yz for me just Runs well and easy to set up

YZ dock rules ALL IMHO

#47967

Originally posted by lou_dude88@Aug 17 2003, 12:09 AM

10. Y'Z dock uses docklets (I am aware of the release of ObjectDock .99).

9. Y'Z dock has the ability to toggle the animation of the opening of a program.  ObjectDock does not.

8. Can change the indicator (for programs) easily in Y'Z dock, with ObjectDock you have to replace the existing file.

7. Can change the poof easily in Y'Z dock, with ObjectDock you have to replace the existing file.

6. Y'Z dock uses the visual style in XP for their program (see screenshot),  ObjectDock uses the standard look.

5. Y'Z dock has multi-monitor support.  ObjectDock does not.

4. Y'Z dock has sensitivity and delay time for auto hide.  ObjectDock does not.

3. Can change label, edge, and shadow colors and transparencies

2. Y'Z dock can have separators wherever you want, ObjectDock cannot add separators.

1. Although ObjectDock has smoother animations, Y'Z dock has the animations that are most like the Apple Macintosh OS X dock, has the OS X feel.

Although these are ten reasons why YzDock is better than Objectdock, it is also ten reasons why Apple stopped the developement of YzDock. Well, that is my conclusion anyways, but I'm sure there are some that would agree with me.

#47993

thread moved to general discussion, where people discuss about general stuff.

this has noting to do with the productivity of yz or any other apps, so there we go.

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my input on the matter:

Yz is definitely one of the best docks around if not the best, its stablity is the one thing you would consider the most important thing for an app and in my opinion YZ and OD have it well done.

I can assure u that if moby had a lot more consistancy in his work, the dock would have been a lot more progressed and 'complete'.

also, whats "annoying" in installing dx9? Why stick with 8.1 anyway? I mean if i had to install an unknown memory leeching third party utility to run something, i would kind of understand, but still it has completely nothing to do with the way the dock essentially emulates the real osx dock, and specially when that 3rd party utill is most recommended to use in general.

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I am using yz sometimes cause md has some problems with heavy visual art programs (background disappears) and although moby is flawless in terms of speed and reaction.

However yz seems to hang on with all the mess thats going on on my tasks manager.

What i wish moby could do is to complete his dock in the stability area and more and fixed "look" functions (such as positioning and corrected hide).

mobydock, by far, is the most accurate emulation to the real dock in all aspects, and thats a fact. Taste is something we cant argue about either so enjoy the docks you run and take care.

later.

#48007

I think these kind of topics are unnccesary and a real blow to developers.

If your basically saying, well Yz dock is best, why do we need other docks, then why should other developers work hard.

I just hope none of them read this thread.

#48011

... Uh, you people are WAY too picky. I remember the days when Aqua-Soft only dreamed of having a even remotely functional dock (beyond Leaks of OD). Enjoy what you have, people, because it's encouragement, not critisim, that make these people motivated to continue thier pursuit to satisfying thier view of the OSX dock, and at the same time share with us.

Besides, Without the ol' Aqua-Soft timers ******ing*, (you know who you are! ... and me...) You wouldn't have these wonderful docks. (Not to mention the Creators of such wonderful things)

Just don't take it TOO far, I mean, It's a dock. It's made to enhance your computing experience. Your main priority is to ENJOY life, not spend countless hours on your computer. You'll regret it someday. Get out and live.

Ok, Enough with the touchy crap, but thats my 2 Cents.

Adios!

#48015