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Windows Source Code Leaked
Originally posted by Myuu.EXE@Feb 13 2004, 05:05 PMInteresting article... But my question still stands... 40GB in Source Code?
yea i was thinkin that aswell, but until i get proof otherwise ill accept it.
-The Unknown
Originally posted by ravi113@Feb 13 2004, 06:17 PM
timme said no links 
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-The Unknown
hey "the unknown. I WAS JOKING!!! did you open the link??? you can see that it is obviously a joke. so...thank you for understanding. (if you cant sense the sarcasm...) :6
as for windows xp....wow. i am VERY scared. everyone has it. i really hope norton and mcafee (i think norton is by symantec...right?) can keep it together!
Yup, Norton AntiVirus is part of Symantec's Norton SystemWorks suite... I think. ^^
But I don't think that AntiVirus applications will manage to get something that could affect the system from an entirely different front... Thoughts?
Originally posted by ravi113@Feb 13 2004, 06:34 PMhey "the unknown. I WAS JOKING!!! did you open the link??? you can see that it is obviously a joke. so...thank you for understanding. (if you cant sense the sarcasm...) :6
as for windows xp....wow. i am VERY scared. everyone has it. i really hope norton and mcafee (i think norton is by symantec...right?) can keep it together!
u were joking, i was joking... hence the smiley 
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as for the anti-virus side of things... the way to distibute an exploit is through a virus so aslong as nortons stay on there feet there shouldnt be tooo mny problems
haha i know. hey dude im joking too....lol. i like blowing things out of proportion. anyways....im seriously scared (runs in fear!) maybe its time to get that mac i've always wanted although athon 64 is faster in its own right nowadays (i already posted about taht...based on a pcworld/macworld test and article. im not a fanboy. i love all!)
athlon >.< "(runs in fear!)" ... get a mac, the G5 also has a 64-bit architechure, most programs just dont support it yet.
-The Unknown
oh my gosh dude, not the athlon xp! overpriced piece of trash!!! im talking about the FX-51. i posted it earlier...one of those chips performed better in many tests than a dualie g5. it was MANY tests all combined into one. i posted the link in my "wow..." thread now in the pc forum.
but again, i meant the amd 64 fx-51. 64 bit.
Originally posted by ravi113@Feb 13 2004, 07:00 PMoh my gosh dude, not the athlon xp! overpriced piece of trash!!! im talking about the FX-51. i posted it earlier...one of those chips performed better in many tests than a dualie g5. it was MANY tests all combined into one. i posted the link in my "wow..." thread now in the pc forum.
but again, i meant the amd 64 fx-51. 64 bit.
i know what you meant, its really a queations of applications they used. anyway this has gone way to far off topic, lets get back on track.
-The Unknown
blah blah blah, the next great hype!
Other less alarmist point of view:
1. companies that depend on MS help them clean up their code big time (for a discount on future products of course)
2. MS becomes the newest and biggest open-source platform supporting a sh!tload of already existing platforms and programs.
2(a). MS doesn't go all open-source but half-source (hey Bill still has to pay his mortgage)
3. MS gets ported over to the mac platform and wipes OS X out (now that will be funny).
4. public scrutiny leads to more efficient coding, (imagine a superbly coded longhorn on an AMD 64 5000+) Brilliant.
i say BRING IT ON! :who's your daddy:
Well this is no way as bad as half of you guys are saying...
The 203MB file contains code from Microsoft's enterprise operating system, but the code was clearly incomplete, said Dragos Ruiu, a security consultant and the organizer of the CanSecWest security conference, who has examined the file listing.
Pilla noted that "this is not buildable or executable code...nor is it the complete source code."
So nothing is really going to happen. A portion of Windows 2000 code got supposedly leaked. Whoopdedoo.
Originally posted by ravi113@Feb 13 2004, 07:47 AM
That's nothing special. Happens all the time.
Nice though, thanks.
aw well...
Microsoft Statement regarding the leak
it's been officially confirmed now. now we just need to wait, heh.
i'm REALLY curious to know what this will lead to. (and somehow i can't feel sad for Microsoft)
People need to get a clue.
The "source code" that was leaked was only about 660MB, I have a copy, and it's mostly NT 4 and some Windows 2000 code.
There is really not enough there to do any real damage as it contains partial code.
I have yet to find a complete set of code to which I can compile into a functioning program or even a functioning dll.
Yes... there are bits and pieces, but they are for the most part, useless.
You can use it see how some of the kernal functions are called. I found the boot loader source code very interesting.
The i386 code is huge in comparison to the PPC code for NT4 and the Alpha code.
Heck, half the boot process is just trying to determine what type of bios you have and when it was created.
Talk about a waste of resources.
Anyway, there is really nothing here to scare any XP users as the code gets tweaked from version to version. I have yet to find anything relevent to XP with 1 exception.
The source for GINA is there, it's for Win2K, but very close to XP's version.
Could be usefull for better logon screens.
Still reviewing...
The problem will be it's now super easy to find buffer overflows.
So what if it doesnt affect WindowsXP (which it still will, 2000 and XP share 95% of the same code), most businesses are running Windows2000.
ya.. the majority of corporate enviornments can't justify spending the cost on upgrading all their win2k machines to WinXP. There's no added functionality that is required.
I know my company is just deploying it as they buy new machines. there's no plans on upgrading Win2k systems. The only time a user will go from Win2k to WinXP is if they get a new PC with XP preloaded.
which is exactly why MS stops supporting older OS's. 95->98. what's the big functionality difference? 2k->XP(?). Win2k Server -> Win2k3 Server?
We still have an Exchange 5.5 server, as it gets the job done. The only reason we plan on buying a newer version of exchange, is because Microsoft being the pieces of sh¡t they are, didn't include exchange 5.5 support in Office X for Mac, nor Office 2k3. So all our OS X user's have to have a classic interface just to check their e-mail.
Ya, i suppose if our b¡tchass NT admin would realize E 5.5 includes OWA we could get around it. Last time I asked him about it he said Exchange 5.5 doesn't have web access. 2 days later I e-mailed him and everyone else in IS about 10 links to pages which describe step by step with screenshots how to set it up.
[did i just go off topic?]
Edit: PS I really hate this new make cuss words to ****'s as lots of my favorites have the same amount of characters, which confuses the reader.
Another Edit: i was just reading it contains the WinSock API. that's not good. Maybe we'll have another round of WinNuke! hah. (them were the days)
@contrasutra - yeah, it would be easy, if all the code was there.
Most of it (85% or more) is not, and what is there can be useful only to a limited few.
From what I've seenso far, most of the soure C code is very incomplete.
As stated above, in most cases it's useless as there is not enough there to really figure out what it is or isn't doing.
Still reviewing...
thats annoying teaching your email admin how to set up a server...
tell your boss and ask for his job if you're brave
Ok, so right now, there's no risk whatsoever if you have a good AntiVirus, right? On WindowsXP & Win200Pro machines, that is...
Anti-Virus software will NOT help you at all. Any hack or virus coming out of this will be a zero day attack. AV software requires a few days to create a definition file to identify it.
And if the coder is any good, with the proper source code, it will be transparent to any AV software and therefor make it useless.
A good firewall and due dilligence WILL protect you far better.
Nothing will help you. We don't know what kind of holes Windows contains. There could be a variety of attack methods for any exploits people find.
Just practice good security and hope for the best.
...or switch to a better OS. 
Originally posted by contrasutra@Feb 13 2004, 08:17 PM...or switch to a better OS.
If I find my modem drivers.. Then I'm going back to Linux. :canadian: