Real Reflective Dock Mission Statement and Download

They don't even have the source yet, don't expect it to be out anytime soon.

#494857

Leodock

What the hell dude, i clearly said this thread wasnt for naming the dock.

#494858

What the hell dude, i clearly said this thread wasnt for naming the dock.

Tone it down a bit. This thread has meandered way off topic on more than one occasion.

Maybe adding a link to the name suggestion thread in your first post would eliminate posts like that?

#494865

Tone it down a bit. This thread has meandered way off topic on more than one occasion.
Maybe adding a link to the name suggestion thread in your first post would eliminate posts like that?

There is one, its just below this topic. Its a poll.

#494870

So I take it you still have not received the source code for RK Launcher and are starting from scratch?
No, we have infact received it from radu. But, i have a feeling it will take some time for us to incorporate this into it.

..a few weeks later...

Progress is the same because Radu King has not yet given us the source code, however he has contacted me and I will receive the source shortly.

We are still discussing the subject. If you dont like it you can leave. Hm?

What the hell dude, i clearly said this thread wasnt for naming the dock.

Purry, how you choose to represent yourself and this project is beginning to concern. If Raduking does hand over his source are you sure you're the one(s) who should carry the torch? You know there will be a lot of jaded people if this chance is squandered..

Development hasn't even begun yet and already you're repremanding the community? you're going to need thicker skin than that..

Something to think about..

#494908

well said firecracker!

exactly what i was thinking!

#494910

erm, firecracker i didn't entirely understand what you said, as my english is so well (even though i am american) Please make it so i can understand with my tiny brain

But if i am wrong, i think you are saying that i need to be more tough? I know we dont have much progress right now, and that isnt entirely my fault. If you feel that i will fail this project, then feel free to leave. I can respect that opinion.

#494942

Hmm... having a tiny brain for a developer is a no brainer. I doubt that Raduking is giving you the source code as you don't have any programming experience. All you have is Matonga's reflective study and I haven't seen any improvements from your side at all.

#494947

if i was RaduKing i would just hand out the source to an aqua-soft admin and let all of the developers have a wack at it. I really don't think RaduKing is going to give the code to some one who just called themselves stupid and has know idea what they are doing, i probably shouldn't be talking because i have very little developing experience, but i do know there is a slight learning curve and its not like picking up html on your myspace page.

#494949

I think maybe what firecracker is trying to say is how you communicate with people will have an impact on your receiving feedback and input.

Many people will glance (if you're lucky) at the initial post, not read the read me and most likely ask the same question that has been asked and answered repeatedly. It is frustrating, annoying and unavoidable when developing an app in a community environment. IMO Matongas' Stacks Docklet thread is a good example of that.

Obviously the anticipation is high and many are anxious. People need to remember that this is the development thread and for the time being development is still in the planning stages.

#494951

superdock

just playing....but on a serious note, I do agree with sir smiley that EVERYONE involved with this project will need to display some patience...including myself

#494953

I think maybe what firecracker is trying to say is how you communicate with people will have an impact on your receiving feedback and input.

Many people will glance (if you're lucky) at the initial post, not read the read me and most likely ask the same question that has been asked and answered repeatedly. It is frustrating, annoying and unavoidable when developing an app in a community environment. IMO Matongas' Stacks Docklet thread is a good example of that.

Obviously the anticipation is high and many are anxious. People need to remember that this is the development thread and for the time being development is still in the planning stages.

Thanks, i needed that.

Maybe i should state this a little more clearly. Most of you are right, i have very little developing experience, there is another developer that is helping me create the dock. I am not promising this is going to even be released this year. Sir Smiley is right, it is in its planning stages. Perhaps I started a thread a bit to early . As for now, you may continue to rant and tell me how bad i am at programming. I will return when I have made some progress.

#494955

[i dont know whether i should say this here or not(maybe should have pm-ed the developers)]

BUT I DONT THINK THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY.

i analysed Don Matonga's code today and what it does,

to say in very precise english is this:

it loads a "background.png" applies a mask

loads the icons that are in the folder by

a loop which runs five times(so there are five icons)

and does this continously.

there are no functions for what happens when u click on the icons

the icons themselves are not "clickable" items.They are "just"

and "only just" loaded infront of the background .The background

of the dock is screenshoted from the wallpaper u have by

GetDesktopWindow. So if u have taskbar at the bottom it still

shows what is in the wallpaper at that place behind it.But this is a

minor problem, and there are others which I forgot while writing this

U cannot apply transparency to it with third party apps coz it constantly

redraws itself.

So even if u write the neccessary functions to click the icons

and do work, the user wont be able

to "grow" the dock , I mean like we do when we drag files onto RKL or any

other present dock.It has not been programmed that way.

Now moving onto RKLauncher, the greatest problem with integrating Matonga's

program into it is I dont think RKL had been programmed in Delphi.

Even if it was so, Matonga has used newer libraries in the files u can see in the

folder GDIPAPI, GDIPOBJ, DXCOMMON. If u were to use these, u should have to

move them to dlls to natively inherit these api components from RKL code.

However there is a flash of Matonga's genius in the following bit of

code that he uses in the function UpdateLayeredWindow inside the InitIcon

procedure:

If mirror Then

begin

canvas.ScaleTransform (1.0, -1.0);

canvas.DrawImage (icon, 0, -ICON_SIZE, ICON_SIZE, ICON_SIZE);

end

else

canvas.DrawImage (icon, 0, 0, ICON_SIZE, ICON_SIZE);

icon.Destroy;

canvas.Destroy;

surface.Destroy;

If mirror Then

begin

For x := 0 To ICON_SIZE*ICON_SIZE*4-1 do

pixels[x] := pixels[x] div 2;

end;

This is THE CODE that gets the reflection to happen. AND this can be done I think

in the similar function of RKL.

BUT if u r trying to INTEGRATE Matias' prog INTO RKL then i think u r in for a long

haul. I DO THINK THIS IS A FLAWED STRATEGY TO ADVANCE WITH.

AND i am soooooooooooooooo sorry for this LOOOOOOOOOONG POST.PLZ kick me if it will

please u!

BUT THIS IS WHAT I THINK!. AND THERE ARE GODS OUT HERE WHO WOULD KNOW MUCH MUCH MORE!

SO DONT CURSE ME IF I AM WRONG !

#494979

Well that was better than insulting me like some other people. I know it will take much work. Thats why i keep telling you (and other people are saying this to) to not expect anything from me for a really long time. At the earliest, the end of summer is when it would be done.

#495149

Thank you! I hope this project will be finished soon. But it looks cool now too

#496342

If I were a programmer or anything like that, I would jump at an opportunity to help out with the creation of this program! Unfortunately though, I am not, so I will just have to wait in trepidation!

#497145

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#497555

why not just make an addon for rklauncher or rocketdck or sumtin?

still waiting for the working app

if you want rflective icons easy goto http://www.generateit.net/reflection/index.htm

i recommend setting the reflection to 25%

#504274

meme, if they were open source, you could. But they aren't.

#504276

How about:

-TrueDock

#505090

Um. What.

In any case, I just had a brainwave. Why not make an app that just takes up some of the screen, and reflects whatever is above it? I mean, Ave's source would help you to do that. Then I realised that that would only work if you weren't using a dock background, like, me, which is a pity.

How hard would it be, to, you know, run something like that up?

#505091

Genesis

#505320

<___<

I find myself sympathising with purry.

#505321