Aqua-Soft ForumsCheck this out!
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6585
its an actual program program for Kde .. it looks pretty good.. im compiling it now.... looks great for a start!!
-bolero
Oh My! Has The Dock Revolution For Linux Begun?!?
woah, sweet stuff.. i might install linux 
Just installed it,thats AWESOME!
Its already got a taskbar, and somewhat realistic zoom, and its prefrences (though few) are easy to change.
Problem (which we all know): the non transparent background. This is the real problem as X has no transparency. Maybe the guy can use OpenGL for the background or something, I dont know, im no programmer.
All in all, its a great start, AND, you dont have to run KDE to use it (unlike karamba).
I think this might be the dock revolution, especially considering this is open source, others are bound to modify it.
that is not real transparency.. its alllll fake.. fakily done
for menus its an engine that takes a screenshot behind the menu.. and applies it to the menu...
-bolero
I don't believe X has transparency, KDE uses openGL for the graphic display and acceleration. I found this out when trying to run KDE in my sparc an finding out that I was missing libGL.so.1 
As for transparency both gnome and kde use the old trick of just taking a snapshots of your background, if you use a transparent TERM and move it around you will notice the the background image doesn't change until you stop movig it, Bolero is right.
Remembet that Xfree86 it is just a set of libraries that control the communication between your video card and the OS, they by themselves can't do a single thing without a desktop manager.
Telmo is right.
We are not saying transparency is impossible, in fact, aterm has real transparency I belive, but it means that the coder has one more thing he has to program, and more work discourages people.
It would just make the job easier if X did some of the needed stuff.
:boob_shake: :boob_shake: :boob_shake:
wow, this is great..............
now for some sort of object bar type thing, which i don't imagine would be even as hard as this, kde pretty much has it right now (it's just ugly) im only starting to learn programming, so im no help. anyway, awesome!!!!
:own: :own: :own: :own: :own: :own:
:who's your daddy:
wow i just finally got it to run and Man.. the magnification is Great (effect wise like how many iconszoom up and how properly it does it).. just now we gotta get rid of the background following up.. but holy.. amazing start...
-bolero
New versions out, and it has TRANSPARENCY.
Unfortunatly, the thing is so buggy on my machine, I cant tell you if its real or fake.
LoL awesome thanks for the headsup
and lol... thats funny.... too buggy eh? ahhh well its gettin there
-bolero
damn.. oi betta chick this thang...
Update, its fake transparency, but it looks pretty good. It snapshots behind it, not just the root window (so it snapshots open windows as well). It looks pretty good, if they work the bugs out.
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?conte...dab24b521e70288
just like to say an update is here. at version 2.1
addeds a better transparency effect and some bug fixes!
check it out.. its really good in my opinion!
-bolero
The background is still all screwed up. I think it has something to do with Xinerama, even though it says this version has xinerama support.
Oh well, still hoping someone with more talent will help this guy out.
Moby, why dont you lend this guy a hand, I think its in C++ as well. (Y)
Thought it might be worth noting that the version is now 3.x. The background is screwy when it's run under GNOME though, and after lots of hassles with aRTS while trying to get into KDE, I'm sticking with GNOME, since it "just works."
Looks like a really great app for the KDE people.
Edit: Oops. I had opened up 4-5 tabs to read at once, and read this thread, replied to it, then moved to the next tab to read it, and found out it was an announcement for 3.x.
Wicked!!!
Originally posted by TelmoI don't believe X has transparency, KDE uses openGL for the graphic display and acceleration. I found this out when trying to run KDE in my sparc an finding out that I was missing libGL.so.1
Actually, KDE does not use OpenGL for graphics and acceleration of it.
It just needs the libGL dso because there's an OGL widget in Qt (which means that if you build Qt with GL support, enabled by default, all your Qt and KDE apps will list libGL as one of the dependencies (see the 'ldd' command))
Remembet that Xfree86 it is just a set of libraries that control the communication between your video card and the OS, they by themselves can't do a single thing without a desktop manager.
With over 2 Millions of source code, XFree86 is much, much more than that
(unfortunately.. I wish it would be just a dumb display manager,would allow one to play with it and add some new features much more easily :joystick: )
Hay this looks great bolero. I'll give it a try on my recent install of RedHat's beta test 2 of Severn. It has all the newest files for KDE and Gnome 2.4. Maybe your dock will be easier to deal with than gDesklets was for Gnome. I did finally get gDesklets to work with starterbar, but it kinda sux after using Yz dock for so long on XP.
Hey has anyone tested the new buikd.. is the magnification like mac os x dock still in there ?? cause im reading stuff about 1 icon at a time zoom i hope this isnt the case
-bolero
Originally posted by bolero@Sep 30 2003, 11:02 PMHey has anyone tested the new buikd.. is the magnification like mac os x dock still in there ?? cause im reading stuff about 1 icon at a time zoom i hope this isnt the case
-bolero
It's true, the magnification feature isn't in there anymore.. :dr_evil: 
It's now just a beefed up Kicker with (much) less features, but still pretty nice to look at
wow im extreamly disapointed, he did a good job on like what ksmoothdock 2.2 when it had it in.. i guess he got scared when Yzdock got shut down... its a shame although i bet someone can stick the mag back in with the source code
-bolero
Originally posted by bolero@Oct 3 2003, 06:46 PMwow im extreamly disapointed, he did a good job on like what ksmoothdock 2.2 when it had it in.. i guess he got scared when Yzdock got shut down... its a shame although i bet someone can stick the mag back in with the source code
-bolero
The change came with version 3.0, with the following reasons:
Quote by KSmoothDock author:- Redesign the interface to make it more usable (maybe less cool than before, but I prioritise usability).
Personally, I think he's nuts, docks are all about these effects :canadian: and without them it isn't a real dock anymore.
Anyway, afaik I've got the code of the older KSmoothDock's lying around somewhere on my HDD so if anyone wants the code with the effects just send me a pm and I'll see if I can find and zip up the thing.
(I would really like to rework the code myself, but I'm already spending way too much of my free time on my own program :boob shake: )
:woot:
That program of yours looks nice, richardve. I've been thinking about how to go about writing a program like that myself...
What exactly is it for though? I mean, what GUI does it(/will it) make widgets for? GTK? QT? If your program covers GTK and Metacity, I can stop making my brain hurt figuring out how to go about making such a program.