How to create an margin?

Is there any way to create a margin at the bottom of my desktop so that when I maximize windows, it only maximizes up to the margin? The reason is because I want my dock to show at all time, but I don't want it to overlap my current window.

#318551

Yea, you can use WindowFX

#318552

Or you can forget about maximize function =) Use resize corner and make window size you like... I'm working thi s way.

#318569

Or you could try this http://landvermesser.tripod.com/ it has a fuction to only let your windows maximize to the size you want thats what i use........so it must be good eh !

#318578

I was thinking more of a registry hack but these are all good, thanks

#318587

You could search the forums, I remember a discussion like this from a while ago. Aaaand I remember a lot of solutions!

#318606

Yeah, hehe...

Sizer

Hawkeye Shellinit.

Search for a post made by me with one of those words, and I believe I listed most of the options.

[Edit: Here.

http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread.php?t=23621

There was also something released by djwilliams...search for it ;).]

-NC

#318664

There are several solutions to this problem, although for some people they don't work (and everyone else seems to think they're crazy.)

There's Hawkeye's Shellinit and a whole boatload of other programs (DesktopCoral and djwilliams' are others that come to mind) that essentially work the same way, sort of mimicking the way the Windows taskbar reserves space on the screen. And then there's WindowFX which probably has a more fundamental implementation. I prefer(ed--see below) WindowFX because with the others, when Explorer hangs/restarts, or a slew of other events that are occasionally triggered by programs, those programs often have to be run again. I found this fairly annoying, and I'm almost certain Shellinit suffers the problem. For example, if you want to resize/move your taskbar, you have to reload the program. If you use tclock2, I'm pretty sure it will randomly reset what Shellinit has done.

These solutions are all great, unless you're like me and about a half dozen other people I've observed who have a problem where, when Windowblinds is loaded, these solutions all refuse to work. This is the phenomenon where maximized Windows will take random dimensions and be placed, say, at 5,-10 screen coordinates and no longer behave like maximized Windows (i.e., you can move them.) Unfortunately, it seems like most people would rather dismiss the problem, so if it happens to you too, I'm at a loss for why. I've read that it may be a problem with certain skins, but I haven't been able to find a skin where it isn't a problem, and all the solutions to fix skin codes have proven useless.

Sorry, that's my rant on the matter. I've just had a really annoying setup for the last few months because of this.

And frankly, I think it's really silly that there isn't a simple way of doing it in XP. It seems like such a simple, trivial thing to do, and yet there are so many quirks and oddities about how we have to go about doing it. If we even can.

#318686

You could use Samurize. Create an object then stretch it all the way to the edges of the screen, then resize to the size of your dock. (I'll assume it's for a dock, since i can't think of any other reason you'd want to add a margin to your screen) After that, just select "dock to bottom" or something like that; voila! maximize all you want, it won't go past that margin. It's also very light on memory and CPU-friendly.

The only issue with this is that if you have a crash or something, i.e. explorer crash, you'll have to reload samurize. That's it.

#318736

Even prettier: set bblc or xoblite as your shell, replacing explorer.exe. Both have "set desktop area option", and as bonuses, you will get virtual desktops, desktop menu, and keybord shortcuts as well :)

#318812

or use litestep ... (damn im obsessed B) )

it can set desktop area, and it can look real nifty

#318824

There was also something released by djwilliams...search for it ;)

That program he made has been removed from his server, which is a pitty, because I really wanted to try it.

If anyone wants the thread for some unknown reason... http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread.php?t=27218, there it is

And if anyone has this application would they mind uploading it (to like megaupload or another site like that) and posting a valid link?

EDIT: for people that use Hawkeye Shellinit, this post might help if you don't know how to make your own hss files properly; http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showpost.ph...10&postcount=85

#318982

I'll upload it (djwilliam's program) this weekend, assuming he doesn't have a problem with it.

-NC

#319124

Mad, thanks! Really want to give this program a try, considering that Hawkeye seemed to always turn itself of :confused: last time I used it.

#319163

http://nc.needlemen.com/Resizer--djwilliams.zip

I won't take it down for at least a week ;).

Personally, though, I've never used it (I don't use resizing programs), so I can't vouch for it's effectiveness at all.

-NC

#319878

Thank you very much! I really hope it works...

#319883

You can also use xBar to resize your desktop (xBar - Build 1.60). It's a command line app that only loads once during startup and doesnt use any resources, and can also hide tasks from the Task Bar. I can't seem to find a working link for it, so if the other soultions posted don't work for you PM me your email and I'll send it to you.

#319964

I have xBar too...

Did you try Sizer as well? Not djwilliam's program...google it.

-NC

#319982

djwilliams' app doesn't seem to have any effect on my desktop.

EDIT: Strange... it has an effect on my icons, but nothing else.

EDIT(2): Hawkeye Shellint works. I can't seem to set more than two margins, but that's ok.

#319984

Do you guys think I should implement this in RKLauncher directly ?

#320152

Do you guys think I should implement this in RKLauncher directly ?

YES!

If it's possible, do it, but only if does not shake the stability or implements more bugs!

You should do it cause i like haveing your dock alaways on top and without "automatically hide" checked!

PS: I know this is not the place but can you do a nightly build with minimize exclusions list enabled?

For me is stable as stable a win app can be, so i only need that now.

Multumesc pentru cel mai tare dock! Oau!

#320167

Do you guys think I should implement this in RKLauncher directly ?

Only if you have the time :) RK is good enough as it is already!

#320169

Do you guys think I should implement this in RKLauncher directly ?

Yes! If time allows for it. Not having to run another app is always a good thing. I hate to make a request but where were on the subject... if you do decide to implement this feature you should also add the option to hide running tasks from the Task Bar (this way tasks are only shown in the Dock but the Task Bar is still visible).

#320184

Yes. Would be very nice.

#320512

well.. but can windows go ontop of it? the behaviour should be

- no maximazation larger than what the margin has set

- but still can drag windows on top of the marginal area.

#320546