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Okay, now here's my question for you people: if you were going to start a project for a community (or just start a community) .......

i think that is more than enough to quote.

if you are starting something for the community ur not looking to make money or break even. you`re doing it FOR the community, which means free.

IF you are looking to make money, than ur not doing it for the comminity, aren`t you? ;)

ur doing it for urself and ur personal gain.

i admit this is a tricky situation, but as i said in my prev post, charging for walls/themes/skins/icons will ruin the community and turn it into a marketplace.

sadly, this is just how capitalisam works. first it`s a dedicated, free community. then when an opportunity for money making arises, someone butchers it and trys to milk it. (i`m not aiming this at anyone from this community, i`m saying it in general)

we should just get used to it :(

#262064

if you are starting something for the community ur not looking to make money or break even. you`re doing it FOR the community, which means free.

IF you are looking to make money, than ur not doing it for the comminity, aren`t you? ;)

ur doing it for urself and ur personal gain.

I'm going to tell you right now that pwnzrzpat is trying to make money so he can throw it right back at a community. He and I have no intention of using that money for our own personal fun-- Pat and I intend to start a community of our own with this money.

#262067

I'm going to tell you right now that pwnzrzpat is trying to make money so he can throw it right back at a community. He and I have no intention of using that money for our own personal fun-- Pat and I intend to start a community of our own with this money.

yep ;)

as for the ransom you could just donate 10 cents

#262069

i don`t intend to go into his motives, nor how he will spend the money. once the money leaves my hand, i don`t control how it`s used.

but this IS a typical pay-for-goods transaction.

oh and if you intend to start your own community from the money you make, you and your NEW community will benefit, not the current one.

it`s like ur saying "buy my walls so i can leave this joint and start another, better one of my own" ;)

#262070

But Aqua-Soft WILL benefit from this new community! I can't give details, but I can tell you that Aqua-Soft WILL take a great interest in this site.

#262078

^^^ Thanks but no thanks man , I'm with Unbe in this .

#262088

if i pay 10 dollars will u give just me the walls? :)

#262090

But Aqua-Soft WILL benefit from this new community! I can't give details, but I can tell you that Aqua-Soft WILL take a great interest in this site.

Too bad Aqua-Soft WILL never see it :(

if i pay 10 dollars will u give just me the walls? :)

Yes, but then nobody else [except for lostspyder] will see them :( I want to be nice, unlike Unbe. ;)

#262091

pshh he only donated 50 cents... ill donate a dollar, then could i get the walls?

#262092

pshh he only donated 50 cents... ill donate a dollar, then could i get the walls?

you got's 'em ;)

#262097

if you reallly think the community would benefit from this "new community" then why not tell the community about the new community that you want to start that will benefit this community. Tell them taht you new community will need money and maybe the old community will give you some money to start your new community that the old community will be greatly interested in and benefit from (the new community)...

errr....:confused:

#262139

LOL, i can say these walls are pretty slick man, so wait, if you get 10 dollars everyone gets these for free???

#262145

Yes, dont blackmail us with some secret project. People do not pay blindly its as simple as that. If you need donations to fuel a perfectly legitimate project, tell us about it, dont make us pay for what we dont know.

God, i thought people would assume this :confused:

#262182

There was no mention of a secret project, you said the money was to pay for your expenses while making the walls (whatever that may be - I think I run up costs in the region of 25p (50cents) for a cup of coffee).

I think a direct approach would be much better received by everybody than the ransom for secret project mysteries.

I feel this is a shame to take away what could have been a popular thread thanking you for your walls (and possibly getting donations) into 2 pages of the community explaining exactly why we feel we shouldn't have to pay to even see your walls.

#262191

Yes, dont blackmail us with some secret project. People do not pay blindly its as simple as that. If you need donations to fuel a perfectly legitimate project, tell us about it, dont make us pay for what we dont know.

God, i thought people would assume this :confused:

Okay, I see that that's a valid concern. I'm thinking about coding some software to release as ransomware or donateware; once I get to that point, Pat and I will be ready to preview the site.

There was no mention of a secret project, you said the money was to pay for your expenses while making the walls (whatever that may be - I think I run up costs in the region of 25p (50cents) for a cup of coffee).
I'm going to tell you right now that pwnzrzpat is trying to make money so he can throw it right back at a community. He and I have no intention of using that money for our own personal fun-- Pat and I intend to start a community of our own with this money.

;)

#262237

i must say... ive noticed a slight increase in releases on aqua-soft. it seems like more people are trying to offer more to the community but after all, i think were all here to ... i dont know what im talking about.

i paid for thewalls... only a buck.. i dont think people should have to pay but i paid anyways cause i liked what i saw.

about that secret community thingy... wasnt really paying attention.... but i think everyone should not worry about that secret community but pay more attention to the fact that A-S's first boyband... BOY BLITZ!... staring me (claudio), unbe (euro-dave), and seph (sven) will be in the studio this summer and then touring across america and europe in 2006.

please support us!!!

:-p

#262266

but pay more attention to the fact that A-S's first boyband... BOY BLITZ!... staringp me (claudio), unbe (euro-dave), and seph (sven) will be in the studio this summer and then touring across america and europe in 2006.

please support us!!!

:-p

lol , haven't heard a song from you guyz , is it like backstreetboys ? I'd love to see that . please come to the states ;)

#262296

lol , haven't heard a song from you guyz....

NO, but they are ransomware...you have to pay for their recordingstudio and touring expenses before having a song ;)

#262306

exactly jonaz haas the idea... u guys seriously help us out cause i mean... were gonan be huge... all ur girlfriends will be dreaming about us

#262346

.. they already do, Tide... well, about me, but thats not the case

#262354

.. they already do, Tide... well, about me, but thats not the case

but this time they would be chasing us and screaming cause they like us, not cause they wanna kill us :P

#262361

Two words Pocket Fisherman

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