Just when you though windows couldnt get uglier...

A few points from me too:

• Windows can't do from scratch. It has to be invisibly compatible to maintain its market share. It already carries a huge database of hacks and patches to make well established third party software run on newer versions which almost alone allows the extensibility and evolveability of itself.
  
• Windows users can't be bothered with carbonized contra classic apps: they will always want the real deal: run their apps of today seamlessly within tomorrows Windows.
  
• The GUI of OSX is superior because Apple could and would bury third party apps in a sorry classic emulator alive. A move which MS can't make for fear of getting the sh*t beaten out of it by the Oracle and SAP users of this planet.
  
• Mark my word that MS will come out with a fully DirectX'ed desktop, genie effects en masse and whatnot - classic 2D apps will still run in a carefully emulated and patched, even antialiased fashion, if not with LH then later; no more WindowFX slideshows, thank you all the same.
  

nicely said///

#249633

arse-whoopin 256x256 icons... lolly

#249690

Haha, and I remember another topic of yours (I think) that TOTALLY slammed Longhorn.

#249706

Haha, and I remember another topic of yours (I think) that TOTALLY slammed Longhorn.

the "when you though windows couldnt get any uglier" one?

#249710

Haha, and I remember another topic of yours (I think) that TOTALLY slammed Longhorn.

Thats because Longhorn is hideously ugly! :confused:

#249714

Thats because Longhorn is hideously ugly! :confused:

on the contrary, its real style (the one thats gonna be the final one) ROX, i mean it is so freakin sweet!

#249718

on the contrary, its real style (the one thats gonna be the final one) ROX, i mean it is so freakin sweet!

And where might one see this "freakin sweet" real style?

#249726

Support doesn't nesssarily stop in XP at 72x72. It's just that it's set that way in the display properties. Also depending on your software you can have different sizes in different places. It's just not "officially" supported where in Longhorn it will be.

You'd think all the people here would know that.

#249727

I don't see why people are salivating at the tought of icons larger than 128x128px. Unless you have a 20"+ display (more like a 30") 72px is fine. The icons on my 17" widescreen (1440x900) were 128x but I lowered them to 72, and they (imo) look far better at that size than they did all large like that. It's all a matter of preferance, but those huge folders in longhorn look naff (the size etc).

#249732

those arent icons, those are wallpapers.

#249738

Topics merged. Topic moved.

Please keep your Longhorn impressions in one thread, no need for more. And I'm not quite sure if there's a need for this one too

(thanks Tricky)

#249744

I think the whole look is disgusting. the thing is with M$ they over complicate things, Panther is a clean and simple design - where-as Longhorn looks like 15 different people are working on different bits of it, throwing it in a big bag, shaking it all around and tipping the contents onto the screen.

ps. Pe8r shouldn't it go in Software: Windows ?

#249749

Yeah and Panther is a finished OS, while Longhorn isn't. The comparison is hardly valid.

#249750

a few screenshots can be pretty helpful, if you are allowed to i seriously want to see how ugly windows can get. i actually liked classic than xp theme ya know. oh well. i hope tiger won't be doing the same mistake that longhorn is right now of making ugly themes.

#249755

That is ugly, and I hope it isn't in the final build of longhorn (2007! too long to wait...) I think Microsoft are having a go at aqua... have you seen WMP 10? It is... lunaqua... It looks nice but... It's just to... err... ga.... blibobukalanked.

#249761

And where might one see this "freakin sweet" real style?

by the "real style" i mean the one billy is using at the WinHEC presentations... but just his build was higher then anything i've seen...

#249787

M$ are behind the times when it comes to their OS, they always have been. just look at past history... in 1988 apple had system 6 followed by system 7, it took M$ untill 1995 to match this with Windows 95 -

And lets not forget, as far as history, Stevie J. had M$ and Apple beat in the early 90's with NeXTstep, which was so far ahead of its time it still outclasses Windows 2000.

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#249803

Urm, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they leave the major GUI work for the end? I mean, what they want first is to get it working, and THEN skin it right.... I' msure that that is NOT what the final LH will look like at all.

#249942

That's what I was saying earlier... their working on the functionality stuff first.

What you see know is eye candy PR stuff to keep people interested.

The final GUI probably won't be worked on in detail until about 3 to 6 month's before release.

From what I've seen so far of the new rendering capabilities, it has some awesome potential.

#249947

The Longhorn GUI has evolved in many different ways since the first builds. Now that Longhorn is approaching the Beta stage, Microsoft has to begin polishing the GUI, with its Alpha effects and Avalon interfacing. There have been at least 5 major styles released with Longhorn since the first builds- this latest one ("Aero"), which is supposed to be hidden, has been discovered. It, in conjunction with other GUI effects, appears to be what Microsoft is pushing as a final (or one of the final) GUI styles.

#249948

!!! people i'm not trying to offend you in any way, but you're being stupid, i clearly stated that "i got a alpha longhorn and its ie icon was ugly" note that i didnt say anything about the final version... BUT all of you stated arguing about how there's gonna be a better style, and yaddi yaddi, so in the end half of you dont even remember what you're arguing about...

#249987

!!! people i'm not trying to offend you in any way, but you're being stupid, i clearly stated that "i got a alpha longhorn and its ie icon was ugly" note that i didnt say anything about the final version... BUT all of you stated arguing about how there's gonna be a better style, and yaddi yaddi, so in the end half of you dont even remember what you're arguing about...

What was the point of that? Your last sentence (phrase, actually) makes no sense, and we all know that alpha does not equal final.

Disregarding that, how DID you get a copy of Longhorn? Which company do you work for, or are you not allowed to say? Or do you just have a MSDN subscription?

-NC

#249996

What was the point of that? Your last sentence (phrase, actually) makes no sense, and we all know that alpha does not equal final.

Disregarding that, how DID you get a copy of Longhorn? Which company do you work for, or are you not allowed to say? Or do you just have a MSDN subscription?

-NC

lol, someone got pissed, but as i said people started argueing about how thats not the final version and crap when i crearly stated that thats a alpha... but yes i do have a subscription, but then again why are you so concerned about how i got it? not like you work for microsoft.

w/e- forget it.

#250121

i think longhorn might be cool to try out. but if it needs a kick-ass system to run on, then i guess my pc is not up to par. i'm not gonna go out and upgrade my pc just so that i can spend another couple hundred dollars or what not for another windows operating system. i'd go out and finally buy a mac. it makes more sense.

i'm sure no one cares where you got longhorn. people can download it from torrent sites using bit torrent.

my friend from high school works for microsoft. he's a software production manager and told me that longhorn WAS being designed from the ground up, and that's why it's taking so long.

i'm satisfied with what i have now - windows xp pro sp1 with mac theme.

thanks for posting this thread. it was interesting to finally see what longhorn looks like. remember everyone, looks can be decieving - in a good way and in a bad way.

#253034

When your university is in the MSDNAA (MicroSoft Developers' Network - Academic Alliance) , it's no problem to get Longhorn - we may download every Windows version and some developper-tools (Visual studio, visio and database servers and so on) for free...

[Also Virtual PC 7 for mac, which is good, as hope I'm gonna be able to buy a powerbook somewhere in the next months... =) ]

jojo

PS: by the way - my windows looks so ugly because I'm ata pc in the uni.... so I can't skin it... =(

#253117