Too Those Of You With Feature/app Req

I think it is obvious that the developers here are owed a huge thanks and ALOT of rest.

That said, I think something else we should focus on is the develoment of the desklets and app itself before we make 10000 requests of the developers.

Maybe I am alone in this, but I think bug reports are number one in importance.

Feature requests, though understandable and frequent due to the open nature of the boards, are a hinderance.

When someone releases something for iTunes, that shouldnt mean the developer gets requests for every single app known to man. First, the developers should be given the best possible bug reports, then graphical issues, and then usability.

Features and proprietary app requests are a hinderance to the core of the app and can divert the real focus of the developers intent.

I am all for open discussion, but can we all take a break on requsting features froim a desklet until it is further along in development?

Maybe an unspoken respect until the developer is finished fine tuning a plugin isnt such a bad idea.

So take it as you wish, and I am not saying I am not guilty of it, but filling up threads with 'I want it to shave my goat on thrusdays after 3am' are getting a bit tedious when the developer just wants to release a working, fine tuned, and final app/plugin.

My fear is that with so many requests(AND THE FACT THAT THEY DO IT FOR FREE...HELLLOOOO??!~?!?!) we may lose yet another round of developers.

Think about it like this...AquaSoft isnt Burger King..you cant always get it YOUR way.

That's my 2 cents...anyone have a counterpoint?

#194733

I like the idea of bug reports been numberone priority.

because if you have a problem and so does someone else and there the same bug, then you both can fix it and let other people know...

instead of just fixing it and not telling anybody.

#194735

We need some some of ordered bug report system, i'm with you duckie.

#194736

Originally posted by Duckie@Jul 27 2004, 04:51 PM

That's my 2 cents...anyone have a counterpoint?

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nope.

i don't know how andreasV can handle the onslaught.

i'd be calling the nearest soccer hooligan "big-nose" if i had to deal with all the info. since his latest release.

he's been damn great.

not that your post concerns him or anything specifically.

#194737

I think they need to lock the release thread....so there won't be so many thank you

postings...

Also they need categorize a board a bit say make it request thread so we can may be

share some ideas which would be nice to release.....in orderly manner hopefully...

Even though sometimes search may help but since Aqua-soft has been for awhile

there are so many posts and sometimes it's so hard to find a things....

Also, I guess this is already been suggested but they need to make delete their

own posting...I believe there are only edit function to it....

May be this will be save alot of space....

Anyways...recently I swallow too many candy or should I say presents....

I feel overwhelmed....

Good work guys....

#194751

/agree with Duckie (world ends, space time continum collapses, dogs and cats sleep together)

#194769

There isnt such a thing as a [suggestion] tag, Duckie. If it is then it should go in comments and suggestions.

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#194783

Yup, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I also think what Alilm said was a good idea; maybe some sort of automated bug-reporting system. I'm sure this would improve things greatly, and allow the Devs to keep track of everything. Didn't Mozilla.org have something like this - bugzilla?

#194793

I agree with you Duckie. We, blue boys, will try to slap requesting and impatient people harder from now on.

Not to mention that you first started like 3 threads requesting stuff for Avedesk

We need to take a break, to give developers a break.

#194818

Maybe no feature requests should be made a rule like when submitting a release for a program it should automatically say at the top of the page, "No feature requests". And then the person can look over what they write as to be very carefull so that it doesn't sound like a feature request. I myself can't talk about a program without saying what it does right and what I think can be improved or should be added so I guess that would mean me being much more carefull in the future. Either that or simply not respond to any release threads. Hell, I hardly don't bug anyone but the times I do have something to say about a newly released program I will not say it. Will that be satisfactory?

#194828

Hmm maybe if i knew what all this was about i could help lol.

#194855

aye, indeed judge. indeed.

#194877

Simple - lock it down!

People requesting features on a newly released app is just downright rude!

I am guilty of thanking developers/designers for their work - until Timmie impliments a proper thankyou button - there is no other way (and don't say PM's )

#194884

@Duckie: I think you recall the cassiel episode a long time ago

However, as for myself, feature request aren't a big deal, we need them to have ideas, to know how to implement a feature the better.

Again, only rudeness is annoying to developpers, at least annoying to me

siwu

#194916

Originally posted by Pe8er+Jul 27 2004, 08:51 PM-->

QUOTE(Pe8er @ Jul 27 2004, 08:51 PM)

I agree with you Duckie. We, blue boys, will try to slap requesting and impatient people harder from now on.

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No, please, don't. Slapping & thread force closes distracts users.

Poor Pixarman will never know that his USB Camera Stuff is already being worked on.

#194935

Nothing will be enforced unless the developers want it.

#194937

Whoa...feelin kinda woozy from gettin all smacked down and stuff...

I understand about the whole request thing getting out of hand. Mostly I didn't know if something like what I asked about was already out there or in progress. Looks like it is and that is good with me.

I wish I had the expertise to develop stuff like this, but I'm just good for design elements and that's about it. You guys who are really doing an awesome job at making a once ugly, blah interface into something I enjoy looking at and using everyday.

Pixarman

#194948

OK then, sorry We'll listen do devs.

#194951

Perhaps the developers should say in their release if they would take any suggestions or requests.

#194999

or, as i said, there should be an unspoken respect...and are you ready for this kiddies???

RESTRAINT.

yes, that's right...we relax. We learn to time ourselves accordingly.

In fact, why is everone demanding anything at all? Why isnt anyone else developing?

Perhaps, like I learned thru trial and error, some people should learn to buildfor themselves.

I wanted a different clock than Judge released, so I made my own...using my own images, my own font, and my own look. Then, I released it. Simple.

I dont want a developer to have to remember to put 'NO REQUESTS UNTIL APP FINISHED' on every damn thread...they should already feel comfortable enough to know we will act like adults and let them develop under their own steam and without our harrassment.

#195034

I always thought we made things so we do get bugged? :S

#195050

Sorry Duckie but your "Perfect" forum community will never exist.

Yes, Dev's deserve all the thanks in the world but you will always get someone asking for more. Dev's should think of it as a compliment... C'mon they love it so much they want something new every 12 seconds.

I see nothing wrong with requesting.

Maybe we should think about adding some options in the Dev forum to allow posters to pick wether their post will be a request, bug or formal graditude post. The Dev will have the power to choose wether to view only requests, only bugs, etc.

#195052

XJOSHATTACKX, I appreciate your contrary view but have you noticed that (according to the replies to this thread) you're in the minority?

can you give me an actual rationale as to why it is helpful?

all I see is people being self serving. Even in your reply it seems that way...as if you are saying 'Let us do as we wish. It's our choice to be annoying and overbearing...'

#195089

Originally posted by Duckie@Jul 28 2004, 05:55 AM

all I see is people being self serving.

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that isn't entirely negative... if enough people are greedy for the same thing that means the developer is informed of the general desire for a feature which the developer him/her-self might likely enjoy. Even if the request is a one-off, it may be an idea or feature that the dev. might not have though of and would really like. There's lots of great things that get incorporated by the devs. due to requests.

its just the amount of requests, and the 'manner' in which they are done.

Seems largely an issue of organizations too.

i think xjoshattackx's idea could be done with bookmarklets too.

#195094

I fairly agree with Duckie about the "if you want it, dev it" thing.

The most efficient way I found to learn something (from a programmation language to history lesson) is to have a goal. Something you want to make.

I myself got familliar with Win32 with iBlend. Then I got familliar with C++ with iEx etc....

If you have a goal, then 50% of the work is done

siwu

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