Liebermann Pc's

Hmmm... I hope I don't get sued for knowing the English language better than they do.

Because they mean "libel and slander."

Liable is an adjective, meaning, among other things "responsible".

This is what the "real" company meant to say:

Main Entry: 1li·bel

Pronunciation: 'lI-b&l

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English, written declaration, from Middle French, from Latin libellus, diminutive of liber book

Date: 14th century

1 a : a written statement in which a plaintiff in certain courts sets forth the cause of action or the relief sought b archaic : a handbill especially attacking or defaming someone

2 a : a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression b (1) : a statement or representation published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt (2) : defamation of a person by written or representational means (3) : the publication of blasphemous, treasonable, seditious, or obscene writings or pictures (4) : the act, tort, or crime of publishing such a libel

Soooo... they're still fake. Besides, I wouldn't call us trying to figure out if they are real or not an "unjustly unfavorable impression." Nor would I call it "exposing another to public contempt." It's not "defamation," or any of the words in 2a(4).

There's nothing there that makes me think they are real. And saying so is not a punishable offense.

--mgehrett--

#60220

I really dont want to add to this in any way, shape or form, but the term he intended to use was "liable", not libel

the term slander covers the defamation part of it, so if he had said libel and slander, its saying the same thing. And I dont think anyone is upset about the fact that folks are trying to make sense of this cmpany, but some of the posts were a little ridiculous, and quite slanderous IMHO.

thats all I gots to say

#60222

#60245

Sorry, Photo, slander is specifically a verbal action. You cannot commit slander in an online forum, because we are not speaking, we are writing. Libel is written. So, really, he *might* have meant liable and libel. But the glaring grammatical mistake in an "official" letter is mighty suspicious. I think he just doesn't know how to spell libel, and isn't representing a real company.

--mgehrett--

#60248

I think we should all leave this firm alone. If they're real, applaud them for their systems and putting up with people calling them fakes. If they're fakes, well, I'm sure some sh## will wing itself over the horizon to their fan.

contra,

Thanks for showing me about the loading HD into RAM, I didn't think it'd be that quick.

#60311

they seriously need to think of redesigning their website, they so copied apple...

look at their site, then go to apple...almost identical format, go ahead, see for yourself...

#62926

Originally posted by lou_dude88@Oct 8 2003, 12:22 AM

they seriously need to think of redesigning their website, they so copied apple...

look at their site, then go to apple...almost identical format, go ahead, see for yourself...

yup, i had stated this b4, they are the ones that could be facing words like "copyright" and "intellectual property"

cheers...

Seph

#63006

They better be real. That three monitor setup is really cool, and really inexpensive.

#67092

I don't want to get involved in any of this, but I was reading the website and it kept mentioning how they modified Windows XP . . . correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't this be illegal?

Besides that, I don't see Microsoft making a deal with a company that not many people have heard of.

Anyone else know what I am talking about?

#69389

Modifying is a gray area word. it depends on what they did exactly, changin or tweaking some settings for better performance is ok, but when they go into changing the OS's code and renaming or modifying any copyrighted logo, small print or anything like that is not to bill gates liking.

oh yeah forgot to mention.

i noticed when i was looking into some of the screenshots of the pc's, you can see that some of the angles are off where that screen is on the case, i have an eye for it cause i do it myself in photoshop lol, so either they built it with weird angles or the sites a load of crap. but they computers do look good, if there real or not i dunno.

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#71542

Lieberman inc is a suspicious company. I am an economics student and I have checked out their company though many resources, an article featuring them in Forbes magazine has been removed because of this controversy and it is suspicious that they are nither listed with the BBB nor could i find their company profile in the Federal Trade Comission database.

";http://caag.state.ca.us/consumers/general/companycheck.htm"

IC.

If the staff of Lieberman inc. is present, please incluede on your website more extensive information about your company that can be cross checked with bussiness authorities such as the Trade Comission, a Registered number, or BBB membership number will allow for potiential customers to verify your legitimacy! There is no need to threaten suspicious potential customers with lawsuits, defend yourself though proof of legitimacy!

#71594

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isn't that illegal ?

plus the contest ends in october 2004! whats with that... a one year contest for a sub 10,000 dollar Grand prize. sounds like a spam effort.

#71636

Looks like they are trying to get people to agree to be spammed all to hell in the hopes of winning a non-existant PC.

Sounds pretty illegal and fishy to me.

#71684

Yes, it is false. Yes, it is illegal, unless they are operating outside US borders, then it's up to their government. And yes, it is not real!

Let it slide.

#71685

sorry everyone didnt mean to resufrgace this old sore sopt, but I just thought it was quite comical the extent that this company is going to. By the way this was a pop up when visiting deviant art.

#71707

Apparently the company does exist to some extent, and had a product at the LAs Vegas

COMDEX show, here's a link with a picture from the actual show: LIEBERMANN

Opinions anyone?

p.s

did a search and couldn't find the original thread.

if it exists, then sorry for starting a new one.

#83317

They're real. As said, they've been in alot of trouble the past few months with copyrights etc.

Even though I would never buy another PC again, their systems do sound impressive. And their monitor setups sound far too expensive and unnessisary. 92" for $14,500? Does anyone have that much money to spend on an excessively large monitor?

#83324

Originally posted by es.xxi@Nov 27 2003, 09:49 AM

92" for $14,500? Does anyone have that much money to spend on an excessively large monitor?

no, but if I did I wouldn't. If you see what I mean.

#83326

There was also mention of them yesterday over @Neowin:

PC maker puts P4 Extreme Edition into... notebooks

#83329

Those monitor setups aren't designed with "average" users in mind. As Liebermann's site says somewhere, they're intended for content creation professionals, such as those who do video compositing, or whatever, who often feel the need for bouts of "mine's bigger than yours". Apparently.

Seriously, though, If I wanted a vast swathe of screen real estate, I'd just buy (as I've harped on about more than once) a pair of Sony P232W's, and make some sort of rig for them...

One day, they will be mine, oh yes...

#83334

The Register has an article about them too.

http://www.theregister.com/content/54/34211.html

#83395

a couple of 23" cinema displays is a lot cheaper

#83403

Still.... something is very wierd about that company!

#83404

Originally posted by Aleksandr+Nov 27 2003, 04:28 PM-->

QUOTE(Aleksandr @ Nov 27 2003, 04:28 PM)

The Register has an article about them too.

http://www.theregister.com/content/54/34211.html

Yes, it was here that I read about it first too.

I even emailed the author of this article, Tony Smith, about it. Doubt I'll get a response yet though - as much as I like The Register as a site, they ignore all correspondance except for the ones that they find amusing and put up for people to laugh at.

#83409