Finder War!

Originally posted by Menge@Mar 25 2004, 04:37 PM

hmm... listen, flarex. u posted too early to see where this was going. all your post did was entice. may i suggest you something? whenever you see a thread that might lead to a flame-war, report it to a mod "this or that thread might become a flame war, please take actions" and the mod will judge if it's plausible or not and take the actions necessary. that's what mods are for. don't just post "oh this will become a flame war cause of this and that" because that actually makes the thread prone to becoming a flame-war cause it shows eventual weakness on that base and gives people ideas. furthermore, that kind of comment u just expressed just provokes more and more. i sincerely believe that if this thread becomes a flame war, that by any means it was not because of its original subject. because no one else is talking about flaming in this thread except for me and you and i'm just talking about it because i'm replying to you.

i will not address the flaming issue anymore on this thread.

if Bzfinder is discontinued, i'm sorry. if the author has a problem with this poll, please address me and i'll apologise. once again, this poll is supposed to be positive. to encourage the authors, not to discourage.

on an ontopic note, i do LOVE the Xplore icon. who was it that did it, again? congratulations! it's REALLY nice :D

agree 100%. Well said. Flarex come on now -

Polls are meant to be polls, they are not existing to sting or advnace jack. If a developer gets offended by it, then actually HE has a problem and better get ***** slapped for it. Lets chill out with the soul beautys nobility and cut through the crap cake here aight?

Polls represents a certain situation; people like X more than Y, author of Y is AS appreciated AS X. More people use Yz dock (for some odd reasons :blink: ) than mobydock, however moby doesnt even give a slight dang about it, why? cause he's mature and got more important things to do, such as taking a piss or yawn.

if this poll was written like

Whats the best Finder in the community?

1) Xplore 1.00

2) Xplore 1.03

then it would have been a biatch.

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So, its not like it, people can share what they use and I personally urge people to vote, its so freaking trivial and taken for granted. Will Steve jobs get offended if most of the people would rather use XP than his Panther? (for some odd reasons :blink: )

No. :canadian:

#135256

This is a community. My opinion is that a finder clone should be a community project. I think that is what smokescreen is trying to do but there hasnt been a thread about it for a while so Im not sure if that is the direction they are taking.

#135260

Originally posted by juno@Mar 25 2004, 09:20 PM

This is a community. My opinion is that a finder clone should be a community project. I think that is what smokescreen is trying to do but there hasnt been a thread about it for a while so Im not sure if that is the direction they are taking.

Smokescree has been put on hold indefintley.

#135263

I use Xplore because it's got more functionality than the other clones at the moment.

I still think all of the finder clone developers should get together to create one bomb-diggity finder!

-Nando

#135271

Originally posted by alilm@Mar 25 2004, 10:22 PM

I think this post helps everyone. Lets us all know which direction to go in and eventually give the user the best experience.

yep. WEOOHOO IM IN THE LEAD!!! heh j/k i think all the finders are great. :)

IN response to your ideas of everyone working together on a finder. I think that is a great idea but there azre a couple of problems. For one, it is very hard to communicate the ideas over the internet with alot of people.

Second, many people might argue about the certain "way" of doing things, then they will get pissed off and just quit all together.

Three, kinda the most important. I belive all the finders are wreitten in different codes or style of codes. So it would be a trip trying to convert everyones code or having to teach all over again.

Again, I would love to work with people but if there ends up being probleems forcing the developers to quit, I would rather work alone and put out one kick ass application.

:)

TiG4

#135272

Originally posted by Aladdin610@Mar 25 2004, 06:54 PM

I still think all of the finder clone developers should get together to create one bomb-diggity finder!

-Nando

I dig that.

Hope this can come out good, but I doubt it'll happen cause of interpersonal problems and priorities of ideas. Its like asking Jef to make a working Aqua App :rolleyes:

#135288

Mmmmm

this must be closed..... let`s people finish theirs Apps and that`s it... cuz now nobody gonna finish anything cuz they believe that they had won and there is no reason to put ALL the COOL function in theirs app. and the other part cuz they see that nobody cares about theirs app, they are going to quit !! this is not fair.... danm !! who had this WEIRD idea !!! so stupid....

Just my 2 cents !! just my point of view.... We all think different but tere is no reason to write it down in a Forum at a WRONG time !! ... i bet that none of the developer gonna finish as they "SAID" they gonna do .... (with all the function... drag and drop and those stuff....:( ) because of it !!

well i hope nothing happen after this .. and all that... danm !! i`m afraid !! because of this pool ........

PACE !!

be happy !!

#135299

Originally posted by IngeneerMind@Mar 26 2004, 04:49 AM

... i bet that none of the developer gonna finish as they "SAID" they gonna do .... (with all the function... drag and drop and those stuff....:( ) because of it !!

What developer are you talking about? I have absolutely NO PLANS, of stopping developement and I want everyone to know that. Pleae ingeneeringmind, dont speak for the developers. Le tthem voice their own opinions on this subject. None of us are doing this for money or respect, we are doing it for the fun of coding and community and if the other developers are like me, then they wont quit either.

And just for your info, I HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED DRAG AND DROP!! so dont tell me it wont be implemented :rant: :rant: :rant:

TiG4

(Sorry to get so pissed, and this is the first time this has happened but I absolutely hate it when someone tells me that im gonna quit or not follow through when you really have no idea what you are talking about :( )

#135302

TiG4 Dude ... TAKE IT EASY ....

i`m not talking about a "person" i mean it is in general... Sorry if you think it was an offence dude !! take it easy !! :S

i don`t even said Tig4 in my post :cry:

#135304

I like them Alll!!!!!!!!

no one should quit... They are all great aps. Keep up the great work

Serisouly though, eachone of you should be proud of all your work to date. Every one of the finder aps works pretty well and really I could use any of them and be satisfied. I have gone back and forth between bzfinder and xplore, and I like them both very well. I have not had much chance to use the other two yet becuase I have been out of town... but they seem good too. Thanks again!

#135305

I currently still use windows explorer. Not out of preference but out of habit, i've learnt the keyboard shortcuts so well that it takes too much time at the moment to open a finder application.

I have tested them however and as creating a finder app is more of a emulation type thing than a "windows hasn't got this feature" thing (e.g. the docks) and I have never used a Mac :cry:, I can't say which achieves this best, but as for which is currently most usable and flexible that would be Xplore. It would have been the webview hack but due to it not being properly supported by XP it died very quickly.

That's just my opinion obviously, everyone uses their computer differently, so everyone will have a different opinion on this. What the developers have to remember is that a user opinion is just their view of what you have achieved, and as you use your computer different to others they may find things they don't like, that you haven't even noticed before. ;)

#135311

Well we know what happens if I lose to xplore. I'll be coding all night!! :P

I know what youre saying ingeneer mind btu I dont really think itll happen.

~alilm

#135334

I think all the apps have their own advances on the other ones. Everybody is entitled to choose that app that suits their needs best. For me, none of the apps is well enough, so you guys should keep developing. As for the 'discouraged' developers... I think developing such an app is just really cool. Seeing such an application getting of your hand. Being able to share screenshots that noone else can make... Really cool.

My wishlist would be an exact finder clone that supports regular windows functionality and replaces explorer. That means that when I click a folder, the clone pops up, not some silly explorer window...

Maybe stefanka's mod of explorer has that potential, but there must be some coding to be done to get all of your apps to work like that... :canadian:

We'll see

Enjoy coding, you guys! It all looks delicious :naughty:

#135353

Hey guys,

Please keep in mind that I am watching this. I hope that this thread will stay clean and I won't have to close it or warn/suspend people. Go on with the discussion and please don't discuss the tastes. Each for his own. Vote, give constructive criticism and compare.

#135491

Originally posted by Pe7er@Mar 26 2004, 10:48 AM

Each for his own

You mean, to each his own, ;)

#135800

I think its great that we have choice of which we want to use... I personally got hooked on Xplore because that just happened to be the thread i followed. I have been too lazy to try out the others to the extent that i have used Xplore. I would think that they are equally awesome, especially with alilms custom made file browsing system, not explorer's. Best of luck and all to all of the developers, and if there is any way i can help any of you, let me know.

#135839

If a developer quits developing because of the results of this poll, that is rather childish. I think everyone understands that it is best if each of these Finders develops in their own direction because everyone has their own tastes. I can understand the need to watch the thread for flaming, but the only arguments I have seen in this thread are about whether or not there are going to be arguments. I would like to think that this community is mature enough to have a reasonable discussions about the pros and cons of different apps, but I have been proven wrong by many OD vs. Yz vs. Moby, WindowBlinds vs. MSStyles, etc. threads which have just turned into people trying to say that their personal opinion is the only one that matters. Let's use this thread to show that we have matured a little. And to any developers: criticism of the APP does NOT equal criticism of YOU as a person, so try not to take any comments as personal attacks. Everyone appreciates your work because you give us choices, and choices are what skinning is all about.

#142665

the one I use isn't listed. Pantoni's is the best one far as I am concerned :6 yay Looca ! :D

#146870

Originally posted by thecat2000@Apr 19 2004, 10:52 AM

the one I use isn't listed. Pantoni's is the best one far as I am concerned  :6 yay Looca !  :D

hands down winner on my system anyway. Nexplorer isnt an option for me because of the moby dock issues. Looca is the most polished, has the most skins as well as the most features. Drag and Drop shortcuts are nice.. but really, how often do you drag and drop a new shortcut. Looca is king... for now ;)

One more thing... the reason I think looca is great is because it has actually changed the way that I use my computer. I find my self right clicking and looking for "use big thumbnails" even when I am using windows explorer. Most of the other finder clones really didnt change the way I did things. They just made it easier to find things. Looca has actually changed my computer habits which is hard to do.

#146872

Originally posted by bzeitler@Apr 19 2004, 04:00 PM

hands down winner on my system anyway.  Nexplorer isnt an option for me because of the moby dock issues.  Looca is the most polished, has the most skins as well as the most features.  Drag and Drop shortcuts are nice.. but really, how often do you drag and drop a new shortcut.  Looca is king... for now  ;)

I back u up there :canadian:

#146876

Added Looca, methinks it deserves it :rolleyes:

#146921

Ga, this sucks, i already voted, so i can't vote for locca. <_

#146927

Originally posted by Flarex@Apr 19 2004, 08:20 PM

Ga, this sucks, i already voted, so i can't vote for locca.  <_<

Wyczyść ciastka, może ankieta zapomni, że już głosowałeś :P

#146933

so far

looca has been the most stable in my system :rolleyes:

#146935

Originally posted by bzeitler@Apr 19 2004, 05:00 PM

Looca is king... for now  ;)

well for me Looca is out of the question cause it never worked well on my machine.

Messed left panel, slow....

NextPlorer is the best and fastest of all clones and it`s not even in the list ;)

PS Goku add NextPlorer to the list. The way it is is not fair :6

PPS Why don`t mods close this thread? What is it`s value, except as flame thread <_<

#146992