[help] Sharing Adsl Connection

Hi there, guess who? ask-y Seph!

Anyway, here i go.

I am trying to get my ADSL connection to be shared between my mac and the other 2 Win-boxes in my house.

The modem i have at the moment is a Efficient Networks Speedstream 4060 external usb modem, which sadly does not support mac os.

Problem: i do not want the modem to be using my brother's computer as a server to share the internet connection because he might disconnect it in purpose just to get back at me ( ) and the adsl socket is in my room only.

So, i have tought of this, buying a router with an internal ADSL and connect the computers trough it.

Problem: My ADSL connection has to be dialed for it to "connect" and thus, the ADSL built in the router solution might not be feasable (would it?)

I have been looking at this baby here.

Have you guys got any other solutions? any recomendations?

Thank you again guys/girls

#102911

hey,

the dlink model you're looking at doesn't have any adsl modem functionality like you say, this means it would have to be plugged into a modem before being plugged into your dsl cable.this is what i do cause i bought the router a while before i had adsl (its a wireless router, thats why)

as a general rule, dlink is a terrible company to buy from too...

this is the papa you're after: http://www.netgear.com/products/details/DG834.asp?view=

if you want a different model, look around netgear's site, i'm sure they'll have what you're after.

-fissy

#102942

well then i got the wrong model, but its a dlink with an internal ADSL modem as well and it also has wifi access point (which i dont need but might come in ahndy later on)

Ill look into that netgear one, looks amazing

Any other options you guys suggest?

what about my dial up aadsl conection type, how do i go about that with such a router/modem?

Cheers

#103003

Just buy any router with dchp, its plug and play, at least it is for every computer i connect to it. Any router will do.

#103029

the main problem here flarex is that i dont knwo how to go about the fact that to connect to my ADSL line i have to "dial" a number (VCI,VPI) over PPPoE but it has to be triggered by the user, if the internet was always "pouring" into the line so to speak, connecting it to a modem of the sort that Fissy pointed me to with a modem and a router would be perfect...

That is my main dilemma :shy:

#103035

Well since this doesnt appear on the active topics anymore because the boards were broken i will pump it up, someone has to know surely!

Gillbates? any views? Dreamz? c'mon guys, help an RPG Villian out!

#103190

Problem: My ADSL connection has to be dialed for it to "connect" and thus, the ADSL built in the router solution might not be feasable (would it?)

i have cable so im quite possible wrong on this, but my understanding of ASDL is u have to dialup/connect regardless of your ISP. with that said surely any ASDL router with a built in modem is going to solve your problem, otherwith the modem is gonna b usless.

my suggestion would be to ring you ISP and ask them. or go into the shop your planning to buy the equipment from and see what they hav to say.

on the other hand you could encourage your brother to mature a bit and uve saved yourself some money.

EDIT: i found u this... should tell u everything u need to know about Broadband networking http://www.ozcableguy.com/index.html

-The Unknown

#103215

theunknown, yes, true, ADSL has to be dialed up, but that is normally don by the modem and ends up leaving the user with a virtual always on feeling. Now, my connection has to be enabled by the modem and then dialed and identified by the virtual connection identifier and the virtual path identifier (its using PPP over encapsulation) and then i am able to USE the internet.

Now, second problem, my isp says "sorry we do not support macintosh, you will ahve to seek aid elsewhere" for god's sake i know more thant those guys on technical support (im not joking).

Also, in the store... they dont have a clue, windows owned world has bliended people of even knowing there is macintosh systems aroudn taht also connect to the internet.

Now, i could get my brother to mature (not!) but then i would have to call the isp so they send a technitian to actuallty dig a hole and put a socket in my brothers room, now, if they find out im sharing hte internet connection (That is see there is anetwork) i will get in a lot of trouble.

It is not allowed and they have a monopoly and its backed up by the governemtn so theres nothing i can do but aoid the technitian comming over and checking

>.<

#103217

alright i see what your sayin, but unfortunately i dont have an answer. hav u tried emailing some of the companies (dlink netgear etc) tech support addresses? assuming you include your extremely interested in buying one of there products they will usually bend over backwards to help u. i can guarantee your not the only one with this porblem.

sry i couldnt help further

-The Unknown

#103221

Seph, i have adsl and use a router.

You just put the "number" you want to "dial" into the routers settings through a web interface and it will connect for you.

and automatically reconnect if you get cut off...

My ip address changes once every couple of weeks, thats how always on my adsl is

#103275

I share ADSL by having a D-Link DSL-300G+ modem connected to a linksys WRT54G wireless and wired router. It does wired networking for 4 machines and loads on wireless if you ever go that way. We bought the wholeI share ADSL by having a D-Link DSL-300G+ modem connected to a linksys WRT54G wireless and wired router. It does wired networking for 4 machines and loads on wireless if you ever go that way.

We bought the whole lot from HERE. It all works quite well but you do have to upgrade the firmware on both modem and router before they'll work together properly.

EDIT: Also, by using the modem --> router --> computers system you will appear to be only one computer, when in reality there are many hiding behind a router. I put all my PCs on IP addresses in the 10.1.1.* range because apprently this makes it harder to scan for computers on the network.

#103321

Everything I know about this has already been said, I bought a wireless router (Netgear FVM318 -- some of you might remember that I was asking about this on TCPU) that "does" DSL but requires an external DSL modem (meaning that the telephone cable plugs into the modem which has an ethernet cable going out of it and into the router -- this wasn't an issue for me because my ISP provides the modem). I bought it at Amazon.com and got a pretty good deal on it. It's been running smoothly non stop for the past month and has around 15 computers plugged into it (10 on a wired hub and 5 laptops on wifi; 2 of the wired ones are G4's), I haven't been able to get the whole VPN thing to work, but in all fairness I haven't really tried that hard. It is pretty configurable and even has an option for setting up a machine on the DMZ and some firewall features.

Everything is configured through a web interface like Fissy mentioned (PPPoE is handled on this paritcular one) and it's always on.

On the other hand... if you're set to go on a software solution, why not search for a way to set up PPPoE on the mac and make it share the connection with the Win boxes? I'm no expert but as far as I've seen anything that's possible on Windows is possible on Mac and is possible on Linux (and pretty much viceversa)

#103421

another, not very practical, option is to put another network card into the pc, and set the pc up to share it's internet connection, then connect the pc to a network with the other two computers. i am not positive that this is possible, but it should be.

edit: if anyone knows if this will work, please post, because i am going to need to do this soon because of stupid mac address registrations at school. i am getting a desktop from my mom's office, so at that point i will have like 3+ mac addresses to register, and i'd rather not register my wireless router(since we are not technically allowed to have them).

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