Aqua-Soft ForumsYet Another Dock Bash
I kind of agree. They are issues I face when using the dock.
But they're not too bad, and unless you constantly open/close programs (I dont), it really doesnt matter.
And the Genie Effect is so beautiful. 
I wasted so much time today just playing with it. You'd think after almost 2 years of using OSX, I'd get bored. Nope.
Also, I never store "documents" on the dock, just program shortcuts. Documents I usually keep on the desktop.
the guy talks about not being able to select the thing he wants-"hunting" for it
he obviously has 0 hand-eye coordination 
I never felt that way when using my artificial windows dock.
Selecting items is not that hard at all. Plus the only real function of the dock for me (me, not everyone) is it being a simple group of shortcuts. Just a pretty quicklaunch bar, with a handful of practical docklets, and not much more. The right term would probably be eyecandy, since I can't recall anything that the dock does while the older, more common, functions of the OS used to do. But again I'm not very familiar with OSX.
Though I can see the author has somewhat of a point. Especially as almost a desktop space replacement I don't believe it works out too well. You are limiting yourself quite a lot once you start moving all the icons you would have on the desktop to the dock. No labels, moving targets, unnecessary accidents etc.
alilm's tabber2 will solve our problems 
90% of what that guy says is pure opinion about docks, not about their real functionality. It is a worthless article with no point. For example he says it takes up too much space...the solution? Make it smaller!
only takes up too much space if youre running a prehistoric rez :banging:
Literally, a couple weeks ago before i cleaned my dock up, i had hundreds of shortcuts on it, and i knew where every single one was. Whenever i wanted one i didn't have to go searching for it. I had like at least 40 something icons, at least, at like 12 px size setting so that they could fit on the screen, i couldn't even see the icons, and it opened up so well. This guys an idiot. I bet you he idolizes bill gates and microsoft.
BTW, about the space issue, you can resize the dock, and the docks magnification size, so i don't see what the big deal is.
This guys obviously a moron and has his head up his ass.
That guys's a dumbass. Look:
1) "The Dock's locations are unpredictable!"
2) "The Dock is big and clumsy!"
3) "Drag an object off the Dock and it disappears in a virtual puff of smoke...scariest idea!"
4) "Dock objects have no labels...the user can "scrub" the length of the Dock... However, that takes time!"
5) "The Dock needs to have a visible target. Hit the target and the Dock opens!"
What a fartknocker. Here are the solutions:
1) Don't hide it.
2) Make the dock smaller.
3) Lock the dock icons from getting moved or puffed out. (yes, there's a way)
4) That's what the concept of ICONS/LOGOS were made for!!!!!!...so when you look at it, you know what it stands for without using words for a description.
5) The less clicking for the user, the better. Rolling your cursor to the edge of your screen isn't going to kill you.
This guy's really whiny.
Bye,
Nando
Originally posted by Aladdin610@Jan 14 2004, 12:34 PMThat guys's a dumbass. Look:
1) "The Dock's locations are unpredictable!"
2) "The Dock is big and clumsy!"
3) "Drag an object off the Dock and it disappears in a virtual puff of smoke...scariest idea!"
4) "Dock objects have no labels...the user can "scrub" the length of the Dock... However, that takes time!"
5) "The Dock needs to have a visible target. Hit the target and the Dock opens!"
What a fartknocker. Here are the solutions:
1) Don't hide it.
2) Make the dock smaller.
3) Lock the dock icons from getting moved or puffed out. (yes, there's a way)
4) That's what the concept of ICONS/LOGOS were made for!!!!!!...so when you look at it, you know what it stands for without using words for a description.
5) The less clicking for the user, the better. Rolling your cursor to the edge of your screen isn't going to kill you.
This guy's really whiny.
Bye,
Nando
I myself like te dock but let me just clear something up:
1. He meant the location of the icosn are unpredictable because on a mac, when you open a program you might geta new instance ont eh "taskbar" part of the dock or you might get only an arrow underneath the icon of the app elsewhere on the dock. This is specially true when youre using different word docs for example, or different safari indows (yes i know there are tabs, i use them!)
2.- Its true, yo can make it smaller but when you have ahuge dock that runs off your screen what do you do, if we look at DragThing we ca understand where he is comming from.
3.- You can lock the icons from move/delete on Mac OS X? remember we are talking about the mac dock and not yzdock or any other dock lookalike.
4.- Try opening 5 o 6 word documents and look them up. If you havent gone trough all of them and clicked on the " - " widget, the screenie wont show on the dock.
5.- I agree with your observation here Nando.
Seph
3.- You can lock the icons from move/delete on Mac OS X? remember we are talking about the mac dock and not yzdock or any other dock lookalike.
Yeah, you can...and I'm not talking about the lookalikes.
Nando
huh? really? i dont kno how to, where do i go?
Originally posted by Seph@Jan 14 2004, 02:01 AMhuh? really? i dont kno how to, where do i go?
It only works for non-admin users. You can specifiy that a non-admin user cannot add or remove items from the dock.
1) "The Dock's locations are unpredictable!"2) "The Dock is big and clumsy!"
3) "Drag an object off the Dock and it disappears in a virtual puff of smoke...scariest idea!"
4) "Dock objects have no labels...the user can "scrub" the length of the Dock... However, that takes time!"
5) "The Dock needs to have a visible target. Hit the target and the Dock opens!"
What a fartknocker. Here are the solutions:
1) Don't hide it.
2) Make the dock smaller.
3) Lock the dock icons from getting moved or puffed out. (yes, there's a way)
4) That's what the concept of ICONS/LOGOS were made for!!!!!!...so when you look at it, you know what it stands for without using words for a description.
5) The less clicking for the user, the better. Rolling your cursor to the edge of your screen isn't going to kill you.
1. Then it takes up space. Some people need that space for apps. And 1024x786 is the standard resolution for computers, a program should be able to fit comfortably in it.
2. Then you cant see it properly, remember, the real OSX dock gets blurrier as it gets smaller.
3. Doesnt matter. The idea is that "one click" can seriously screw you. Ive accidentally dragged things off the dock and killed reports. Its a real issue.
For example, imagine if your word processor didnt remind you to save before you exited? One wrong click could make you lose loads of work.
4. Like everyone else said, try opening up 5 word documents. The authors suggestion was good, implement depth/size, or something to make each icon unique and descriptive.
5. I could go either way on this.
You cannot remove a minimized window from the dock by dragging it and the application will warn you before closing a document that has not been saved recently.
What lots of people at Aqua-Soft fail to understand is that "Tog" is a usability Expert. He's basing what he's written on years of recording how different users react to different situations, as well as scientific research into the human mind.
So, whilst some may say that this is a dock "bash", it's not - it's actually an educated, relevant critique of the dock.