[help] Linux Apps

Jyes, I'm going to try out Linux again (Fedora) and I'm getting ready by downloading stuff I'll be using straight away (such as GAIM, Mozilla, Stuffit) but I'd like some advice on other specific kinds of applications which I either can't find or there are too many and I'd like to know which are "the best".

Apps needed;

• Email Client

• Icon (For converting PNG <-> ICO etc)

• RAR extracter

• Something to do minor graphical work (ie; Resize, change filetype..)

The things need to be free, since I've got no free cash at the moment. I appreciate all help (apart from people saying 'Use {name} linux instead!'), thank you!

[edit]: Please don't give me "search google" or "STFF", I've done both (especially Google).

#91685

for email you can use linux evolution graphical mail client (i personaly have never used it) for image editing use THE GIMP, i actually like this tool its very nice and easy wonce yoyu get the hang of it. For rar im pretty sure any extracting tool can do it, then again iv never extracted rars in linux.

and for icons i dont know why you would want to convert png to ico in linux cause linux doesnt use ico, so i cant help you with that

and ofcourse its all free in linux any linux distro comes with all this stuff by defaulkt AND MORE!!

-bolero

#91688

www.rarsoft.com

they have a commandline linux unraring tool.

I'd imagine The Gimp can convert .ico->.png , I know it handles png. I reckon it does icons.

If you don't like evolution, which is alot like outlook. Try Sylpheed, it's a small e-mail client. But does everything you'd want. Plus it has the little things like the Mac mail program. Where it groups emails together, to look more forum like or whatever. Good stuff.

#91690

Well for my email under Linux I use mostly web interfaces but as far as a client I use Evolution for gnome and PINE but I dont recommend pine if your not into commandline text interfaces. But I think if your willing to go through searches for others that may suit you better I would say make http://freshmeat.net a regular site you go to, it has its own search engine to search for great software. For graphics programs such as resizing and changing formats I would say go with GIMP, its no Photoshop but it does the job very well. as far as a rar extractor get the Linux Utility called Unrar or to see if you already have it type unrar in your command promot and see if you get anything back. As far as a graphical interface you would have to search freshmeat or other software databases to see. But I would recommend using the command line unrar utility for the simple fact of getting familiar with the command line. As far as Icons I would just search for icons as you usually do. But I have to go aginst your edit lol searching google is very helpful you just need to put the right search into it. But definately check out freshmeat's site, GIMP, Evolution, and the command line unrar utility.

Edit: Damn so far 2 people posted by the time I entered this reply lol, but it seems they agree .

#91691

didnt google very hard..... <_< http://www.linux.org/apps/index.html

for email i would use thunderbird, for images and whatnot the gimp, and fileroller for rars,a nd all your compresion needs.

#91694

for email you can use linux evolution graphical mail client (i personaly have never used it) for image editing use THE GIMP, i actually like this tool its very nice and easy wonce yoyu get the hang of it. For rar im pretty sure any extracting tool can do it, then again iv never extracted rars in linux.

and for icons i dont know why you would want to convert png to ico in linux cause linux doesnt use ico, so i cant help you with that

and ofcourse its all free in linux any linux distro comes with all this stuff by defaulkt AND MORE!!

-bolero

Thanks for the advice! GIMP sounds just what I want.

www.rarsoft.com

they have a commandline linux unraring tool.

I'd imagine The Gimp can convert .ico->.png , I know it handles png. I reckon it does icons.

If you don't like evolution, which is alot like outlook. Try Sylpheed, it's a small e-mail client. But does everything you'd want. Plus it has the little things like the Mac mail program. Where it groups emails together, to look more forum like or whatever. Good stuff.

I'll look up Sylpheed, cheers!

Well for my email under Linux I use mostly web interfaces but as far as a client I use Evolution for gnome and PINE but I dont recommend pine if your not into commandline text interfaces. But I think if your willing to go through searches for others that may suit you better I would say make http://freshmeat.net a regular site you go to, it has its own search engine to search for great software. For graphics programs such as resizing and changing formats I would say go with GIMP, its no Photoshop but it does the job very well. as far as a rar extractor get the Linux Utility called Unrar or to see if you already have it type unrar in your command promot and see if you get anything back. As far as a graphical interface you would have to search freshmeat or other software databases to see. But I would recommend using the command line unrar utility for the simple fact of getting familiar with the command line. As far as Icons I would just search for icons as you usually do. But I have to go aginst your edit lol searching google is very helpful you just need to put the right search into it. But definately check out freshmeat's site, GIMP, Evolution, and the command line unrar utility.

Edit: Damn so far 2 people posted by the time I entered this reply lol, but it seems they agree .

Thanks for alot of good advice!

Edit;

didnt google very hard.....  http://www.linux.org/apps/index.html

for email i would use thunderbird, for images and whatnot the gimp, and fileroller for rars,a nd all your compresion needs.

No, I only searched for the duration of the Fedora download; Three hours. I wanted to ask here because people here have experience and will probubly save me hours of downloading and testing out each one for which one I find best for my needs.

#91696

Gimp blows....use photoshop if you keep your window partition. That is basically the only reason I still have windows on my machine, that and games, which I dont really play anymore.

#91698

Originally posted by juno@Dec 23 2003, 06:58 PM

Gimp blows....use photoshop if you keep your window partition. That is basically the only reason I still have windows on my machine, that and games, which I dont really play anymore.

Current partitons;

C: (Windows, will be formatted and will be home of Linux, 3.3GB)

D: (At the moment just a vRAM partition, 500MB)

E: (Backup, where I keep installation files etc, 200MB)

I won't have room for XP and Linux.. >_<

#91703

actually even tho i like Photoshop better, i like thje gimp its extreamly powerful, you jsut have to know how to use it at its full potential

and you can use WINE to run photoshop 7.0 om linux. Iv got it running perfectly on my linux partition

-bolero

#91706

Mm I'll probubly look into downloading WINE too then for anything I want to continue to use from Windows.. Another issue I need help with is my SupraExpress 56i Pro modem.. I can't seem to find any Linux drivers for it.. Has anyone else tried to use one and been sucessful?

#91728

lol oh boy, modems are kinda a pain in linux, when contra is around he can explain it all to you and im sure he is the best person here to help you

-bolero

#91731

Originally posted by bolero@Dec 23 2003, 07:50 PM

lol oh boy, modems are kinda a pain in linux, when contra is around he can explain it all to you and im sure he is the best person here to help you

-bolero

I'll hope he sees this thread and pities me enough to help.. :cry: In the meanwhile I'll continue to look for a solution.

#91738

although i never actually found a web site for it google windex. windex is a program better than any windows emulator. it ports windows programs to linux rather than emulating a windows environment.

#91757

Jeez, downloading apps off the internet? That's so archaic.

In linux, we have something called PACKAGE MANAGEMENT. Just do:

"apt-get [app]", and it will go out on the net and download it for you. It will then install it completely unattended. MUCH easier than: google for app, download, unzip, run installer, "next", "next", "next", reboot.

But Fedora comes with thousands of apps, including everything mentioned above. No need to download them. They will be there on your first boot, ready to use.

GIMP is basically as good as photoshop. Its missing a few VERY professional features, but it's because of patent issues, not technical ability.

Here's what I like, but there are plenty of choices, most of which will come with your distro:

Web, Email, IRC: Mozilla Suite

Desktop Environment: XFCE4 (see my review)

Terminal: Gnome Terminal

IM client: GAIM

Word Processing: abiword and OpenOffice

Anything that doesnt come standard w/ the fedora discs can be downloaded using APT, like I said earlier. When you get it installed, I (and others) would be glad to help you. If you need to contact me:

AIM - frink366

MSN - frink36@hotmail.com

Jabber - contrasutra@jabber.org

email - ben@gooeylinux.org

U: Also, "WINE Is Not an Emulator".

#91763

APT? Can I sign in for a tutorial? Does it mean that I won't have to do those weird ./configure make make install things? That would be soooo great

#91765

*Flaps mouth* Wow thanks Contra! Although the fact I could of just installed and used that APT for downloading and installing anything else hit me under the belt.. Oh well at least I'm prepared if I accidentally uncheck anything during the installation. The only other thing is the modem compatability.. I found the following quote here; "The PRO is a PCI version, which has no support."

Meaning I basically need to buy a new modem for my connection? If so.. What do I need to make sure of?

#91770

That was written in 2000.

WinModems generally have crappy support. You can either get a REAL modem, or look at linmodems.org to see if your modem is supported now. It may very well be.

Also, APT comes preinstalled w/ Fedora. Other distributions have their package management systems. Mandrake has urpmi, Arch has pacman, Gentoo portage.....

Pe7er: Just IM me, and I can point you to a few resources. And yes, that's what it means, no source code compiling.

#91776

I guess I'll invest in a "real" one.. I'll IM you for some advice (if that's okay?) Contra, to avoid constant replying here.

#91779

Very sorry to double post but I need a little more help. Installation of Fedora and setting it up all went very well.. It's exactly how I want it - bar internet being unavailable. So I'm buying a new modem tonight or tomorrow.. In the meantime I'm borrowing my brother in law's spare laptop to download stuff.

Edit: Forgot the part I need help with.. (somebody slap me) Does anyone know how I can access my backup partition? I'm not used to the way linux displays locations (ie; /home/esxxi). I remember during the installation it's filesystem was "vfat" apposed to FAT32 as I know it is... Mm help?

Another thanks to all the help (and yes Fedora came with GIMP, Mozilla etc.. I wasted my time downloading that lot).

Thanks!

#92455

vfat = fat32/16

If the fedora install didn't mount it for you.. you just mount it up

It's probably like /dev/hda3 or whatever.. l

mount /dev/hda3 /directory/you/want/it/to/be

I may have those backwards.. it's early and i'm tired. If nothing else 'man mount' will give you help on the mount command.

PS, make sure the directory you mount it to actually exists.

mkdir /backup

or whatever.

#92464

"mount: you must specify the filesystem type"

I've tried; mount /dev/hda3 vfat /home/esxxi

And; mount vfat /dev/hda3 /home/esxxi

And; mount /dev/hda3 [vfat] /home/esxxi

But all I seem to get is "Usage" information.. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help, by the way, Deleted!

Edit: I tried: mount -t /dev/hda3 vfat /home/esxxi and I get the error: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3, or too many mounted file systems (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)"

..Help.. :shy:

#92470

"man mount"

mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /mnt/windows

DO NOT MOUNT IT IN YOUR HOME DIRECTORY. That will overwrite your home directory. The satandard location is in /mnt.

#92497

Originally posted by contrasutra@Dec 26 2003, 06:10 PM

"man mount"

mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /mnt/windows

DO NOT MOUNT IT IN YOUR HOME DIRECTORY. That will overwrite your home directory. The satandard location is in /mnt.

Actually it wouldn't erase you home directory

if you mount it over ~, the data would just be 'hidden' until you unmounted the volume.

#92606

Mm the string works but now I can't figure out where the partiton is.. I think I'll just boot into the installer again and note it down when it tells me. Thanks alot everyone, again!

#92620

usualy isnt windows on your first partition hda1? did you try that?

-bolero

#92621