[help] Setting Up A Network, I Think

Hey all,

I'm in need of an internet connection at my place and I was wondering how i would connect to another computer to get its internet connection, without buying an expensive hub, is there a way? The computer i want to hook up to is running windows 98 SE and i am running Xp Pro, both computers have ethernet.

Thanks,

Pops (Geraldo for now)

#86718

I can't remember if windows 98 had Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) built in or not... If it has, then it should be really easy. Run a network crossover cable (CAT 5-E) between the two ethernet cards, set up both computers to work in a workgroup, and assign them to a common IP scheme (192.168.1.x is a common one). Once you have done that, just enable ICS on the internet connection on the win 98 pc (If ICS is supported), and set up the XP PC to use a shared connection... Its pretty simple. Used to use a similar configuration myself until i moved out of home... But then both PCs were XP Pro, so it was easier.

If there is no support for ICS in 98... Then you could run a proxy off the 98 PC? Done that before, too :)

#86728

ICS was included in Windows98 SE (but not FE).

#86731

Well then it really is as easy as I said for once then :)

If you need more detailed instructions (No... not trying to be patronising, but through my work I've learned that it's always best to assume zero knowledge hehe) then just post a reply here and i'll get on it.

Cheers,

#86732

Hey i got a CAT 5 cable and inserted it into the ports on both computers, i ran the winxp netwrok setup disk on the 98 SE computer and the entire network on both computers still wont recognizethe other computer. What am i doing wrong?

#88124

Originally posted by popsandthefamily@Dec 12 2003, 02:21 AM

Hey i got a CAT 5 cable and inserted it into the ports on both computers, i ran the winxp netwrok setup disk on the 98 SE computer and the entire network on both computers still wont recognizethe other computer. What am i doing wrong?

I've got my network set up but I've got the same problem here. The computers within the LAN refuse to acknowledge each other's presence when I clicked on the 'Entire Network'. However, they do show on the 'Workgroup Computers' though. :blink:

Really weird. But just my experience. Perhaps you can try and see if you are experiencing the same thing as well? If so, then at least you know that the connection between your 2 systems is up. ;)

#88128

If both computers are set to the same Workgroup and you can't share files with Network Neighborhood (or My Network Places in XP) then the cable probably isn't a cross-over cable. You need one of those to connect 2 network cards without a hub.

For Internet Connection Sharing (ICS), make sure that the client computer (in your case the XP one) is using an Automatic IP address. When you installed ICS it should have set the IP address of the Win98 computer.

My advice would be to (1) unplug the network cable, (2) uninstall ICS on the Win98 computer, (3) re-install ICS to make sure you're using the default settings, (4) change the XP network settings to use an automatic IP address, (5) on the XP computer, in Internet Options -> Connections -> LAN Settings check the box marked "Automatically detect settings," and (6) plug the cross-over cable back in and reboot the XP computer.

Don't use the disk that ICS creates. You don't need it. Just use the automatic settings on the XP computer.

#88238

Still might want to get a hub anyway... They're not expensive (around $25 for a 4 port), and you could share the connection with more than one other computer. You could have the internet connection plug into one computer (with two ethernet cards), turn on ICS, and have the other ethernet card plugged into the hub.

/karp

#88334

i would get a hub but im broke so i think im going to stick to crossover cables for now, by the way, when i click on the entire network icon in 98SE it says not available, in XP it shows my computer only. Dont know what that means

??????Confused

Pops

#88602

One thing you can try is uninstalling ICS from your Win98 computer and then removing TCP/IP from the Network Properties (reboot after each). Re-install TCP/IP (Protocols -> Microsoft TCP/IP) and then install ICS again.

Another thing to try: (I'll pretend the name of your Windows XP machine is "Pops".) On your Win98 computer, type "\\Pops" in the Address bar of Windows Explorer and hit Enter. Instead of typing C:\ for the machine you're sitting in front of, to access a network computer you start the name with two backslashes. Typing "\\Pops" without the quotes on your Win98 computer should display the shared folders on your Windows XP computer.

#88641

Instead of using the Win98 ICS, stick the XP CD in the 98 machine and when it autoruns use the network wizard on there - it works much better :)

#89024