so I was thinkg about using the nice PKmenu instead but when I link to it I can't have it displayed in the correct spot aboe the dock's shortcut. I think PKmenu is great and versatile but I fail to configure it to work good with OD. Anyone cares to try and solve this puzzle for the comfort of all of us ?
btw, PKmenu is at www.x21b.com
well if u don`t like KkMenu don`t use it! don`t start a topic about u not liking it! :rant: I don`t like stupid topics but u don`t see me posting all around the forums:
[PROBLEM] I don`t like stupid topics! :rant:
bye the way KkMenu is a great program and my dock would be useless without it!
Chill out man!!
Its not that bad! so the naming of the post doesn not appeal to you, so what? read the post itself, youll see he is actually offering an alternative to KKmenu...
Poeple around here need to stop getting so defensive!... REAALLY
Unbeliever, you know i respect you, this is not a flame or anything... just count to ten and chill 
Here's my take on the issue:
I believe that this so-called "whining", when one comes to the conclusion that a certain application is not to his/her liking becuase of a set of features that he/she does not approve with or lack therof, actually comes down to being constructive critisism, especially when within a community.
If I would have built an application and allowed other people to use it, it would be important to me that people would give me feedback regarding the program, and yes, "I don't like this application, here's an idea for improvement" is considered constructive feedback.
Of course, if you don't like a program you can just not use it, but it you decide to state why you don't like it, and give improvement ideas as well, that can actually become indispensible (sp?).
I don't see anything wrong with starting a "I don't like this program, here's why, and I have an improvement idea" topic. In a community with so many developers, things like this can spark ideas, action, and results.
@ seph and choo-chee
sorry for loosing my temper, been pissed off by some other pple, sorry :shy:
@ seph i know ur respect and i`m thankfull for it, ur one of the pple i respect most in these forums. It`s just as Liron said, constructive critisism is good, actually wanted, but things like: i don`t like it, i like the other prog (w/o stating the flaws and/or suggestions, just piss me off. and i`m beeing defensice cause Jiri (as far as i know) has stopped development of KkMenu cause of some stupid, discuraging comments (i`m not saying that this post i stupid). i know that u didn`t mean to flame. and i`ll listen to u:
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10...
hey i feel better 
well read this :
1) KKmenu became shareware while OD is freeware
2) I think KKmenu needs real improvements in it's configuration dialog
3) PKmenu is higly versatile and cool and I think the guys in x21b.com earn their respect with great apps they wrote
that's why I started the topic. I think that many users can benefit from using PK stuff if it was easy to embedd into OD in some way....or maybe hacked a bit
well u could always ask guys who wrote that program to port it to OD as a docklet. And by the way i`d love to see a good alternative to KkMenu
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