In some threads members have argued on both sides of the fence as to why
Apple and MicroSoft charge for "Upgrades" or "Updates"..
So, here is the (continuing) $129 question:
"what are the major changes from OS X 10 - (Date)"
And the $99 - $200 question:
"major changes from Win98 to Win2K3 Server"
And then discuss if those changes were "minor" or "major" revisions to both oses,
warranting of a fee.
what factors into the companies charging for an update isn't necessarily how many new *major* features they have, if they can sell it, they will.
i'm not filled in on all of the details of the individual OS's, but it's the companies' responsibility to try to make a quick buck, and if the consumers keep buying junk, the companies will keep selling junk.
Yep, DHS above put it nicely. To be fair, I've not found any major OS update to be 'junk' over the last few years, with the exception of Windows 98 -> Windows ME, which was the worst OS ever made, with a paucity of new features and an instability matched by no modern OS.
However I don't think that many people can argue with the upgrades that either Microsoft or Apple have made over the last few years. XP is light years ahead of 98, as is Panther from 10.0 or 10.1.
i need stuff like " the tcp stack was ..." or the "unixfs was ...."
"the gui engine was ...." .
and with the win me thing, it was the only ms os not affected by the
blaster virus. so something must've been changed.
I don't think 95 or 98 was affected by the blaster virus either
Originally posted by Ludge@Nov 4 2003, 09:06 AMI don't think 95 or 98 was affected by the blaster virus either
They weren't. Nor were any MS-DOS versions, or any Windows versions below 3.
The reason? None of them have an RPC stack. <_<
Originally posted by RoyalPain@Nov 4 2003, 09:31 AMi need stuff like " the tcp stack was ..." or the "unixfs was ...."
"the gui engine was ...." .
and with the win me thing, it was the only ms os not affected by the
blaster virus. so something must've been changed.
Very polite.
Try specifying in your initial post what kind of response you'd like to hear. It saves people like me wasting my time in posting replies which don't meet up to your high standard. <_<
Originally posted by RoyalPain@Nov 4 2003, 11:31 AMi need stuff like " the tcp stack was ..." or the "unixfs was ...."
"the gui engine was ...." .
and with the win me thing, it was the only ms os not affected by the
blaster virus. so something must've been changed.
LOL, are you trying to get resources for an essay? hahaha. 
Tell people beforehand if you want them to answer in essay format... <_<
Panther has brought about many changes.
Perhaps the most obvious one would be the change in the Aqua theme, especially for us a-s members. 
It also has new animation sheets and other GUI elements. I think I'll add Exposé to the GUI category as well.
It has also implemented FreeBSD 5.x as its core, and has made Bash the default shell.
It takes half the time to boot up.
Its snappy.
Its more stable - for me at least.
I absolutely ADORE its memory management. I can open tons of programs and not worry about pageouts and disk fragmentation.
There are many other little hidden treats as well, such as system-wide auto-word-completion, excellent file navigation system, file and folder encryption, EXPOSÉ!!, auto-enabled samba and cups - and if I'm right, it already has ghostscript and gimp-print/hpijs.
So I honestly don't understand it when people whine about the $129. )
@Contra: what does this command actually do. It seems to free up memory for me:
sudo du -sk /
you forgot Expose there Taha!
what i want to know is how taha got the accente agoo or whatever the hell its called on top of his e's like that. do macs have a 'flairloc' like pc's have a 'capslock'. 
Originally posted by realitybath@Nov 4 2003, 06:46 PMwhat i want to know is how taha got the accente agoo or whatever the hell its called on top of his e's like that. do macs have a 'flairloc' like pc's have a 'capslock'.
Nah, you just set the keyboard layout to any language that has them (ie spanish, french, catalan...etc) he must really like it in order to go trough the hassle haha, i couldnt be asked!
Another one of my posts, where I read the first post in the topic, then kinda skip to the "Reply" button on bottom.
What makes people pay for upgrades?
I'll take corporate america for $400 alex.
Security fixes, added security, new features. It's like an expansion pack for your os. Do you pay for expansion packs?
lol. I hope he's not talking about piracy...
You wouldn't want this lot after you now would you?
:police: :Dz: :nerd: :godpunk: :goku:
Originally posted by Taha@Nov 4 2003, 09:29 AM@Contra: what does this command actually do. It seems to free up memory for me:
sudo du -sk /
"sudo" executes the command as root.
"du" is the disk usage command. It displays the disk usage. "-s" is a summary, so it wont display everything and "-k" sets the interval for it to count(1K).
It shouldn't free up any memory though.
Originally posted by Ludge@Nov 4 2003, 01:53 PMlol. I hope he's not talking about piracy...
You wouldn't want this lot after you now would you?
:police: :Dz: :nerd: :godpunk: :goku:
How does thread remotly resemble piracy talk? Are you talking about my comment "Do you buy Expansion packs?" It was just a question that could relate why to get an update or upgrade.
thanks Wizard,
just wanted to know what differentiates an upgrade from an update
and vice versa. Also why some are free and others are fee based.
Like, seriously whats the difference between XP home and XP pro.
I was taking the piss out of the "what makes people pay for upgrades". Not being serious. On reflection, it's not at all funny. I'll go now...
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