I was just curious if anyone tried running itunes in wine... i tried it and i get a "quicktime not installed error" so maybe if we install quicktime in linux with wine it could work? im thinking it may jsut crash miserably but has anyone here attempted itunes with wine?!
-bolero
doesnt quicktime come with itunes?
iTunes needs Windows2000/XP and WINE cant really run that.
It sometimes can, but you would have to copy your whole /system32 DLLs over and screw with some stuff.
So make sure you're using ALL native DLLs, and that your OS is set to "2000/XP" if it can.
WINE might only be able to do "NT".
Originally posted by contrasutra@Oct 30 2003, 05:30 PMiTunes needs Windows2000/XP and WINE cant really run that.
It sometimes can, but you would have to copy your whole /system32 DLLs over and screw with some stuff.
So make sure you're using ALL native DLLs, and that your OS is set to "2000/XP" if it can.
WINE might only be able to do "NT".
Nah, Crossover* which is basically a proprietery wine can run Quicktime. It's developed by codeweavers.
I highly recommend it. I'm not sure about the iTunes, but it can run Quicktime. I don't have a linux box handy right now, otherwise I'd give you the complete details. If someone does have the latest codeweavers apps, let me know. The Config program allows you to choose from the programs it knows for sure it supports, but there's also an option to install your own .exe, and give it a shot. It even creates the proper short cuts in both gnome & kde.
Quicktime runs on Windows98.
Originally posted by contrasutra@Oct 30 2003, 07:25 PMiTunes only runs on Windows2000 and up.
Do I have to connect all the dots?
http://crossover.codeweavers.com/pipermail...ber/016301.html
It wont be long until crossover runs it.
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yes, it will be.
Are we betting WINE wont be able to run it?
Name ONE program that is 2000/XP only that runs on WINE?
if we're betting JUST 'wine'. the original, wont be able to. I'm not betting that.
If we're betting on the proprietery wine variants such as codeweavers and transgaming's versions wont be able to. I'll take that bet. And raise you. (:
CodeWeavers doesn't do anything special. They really just fix a few installer bugs that the supported programs had.
And WineX only added a DX8 clone, which doesnt matter in this case.
You are putting your hope in the wrong people.
Office XP runs in CrossOffice.
but office xp will run under win98
Well Contra is correct. The best thing possible would be that Apple release iTunes for Linux...
Chances of that happening are pretty slim if you ask me...they just don't have the market.
The unfortunate thing for someone like me is that I already purchased several songs (not too terribly many), and there's really nothing I can do in terms of playing those songs on Linux...
I'm pretty much SOL.
Of course people can burn their music to a CD and then re-encode them but this is definately something that I wouldn't want to do (lossy + lossy = extremely lossy).
Either which way...let's hope something happens in terms of getting iTunes in Linux to work...I love the idea of buying music online, and it's pretty cheap ($.99? It's the price of a soda...I can go for that).
Paradox, it depends how you convert the songs
Lossy + RAW - RAW = Lossy
Therfore, if you create a CD of MP3's, you are turing it back to Raw format. Thus, there is not much more the algorithym can do to make it less. I think that's where my train of thought went.
maybe it can't run without the ipodservice.
i deleted it from my windows and itunes said the same on windows without this ipodservice.exe file....
Originally posted by wizard@Oct 31 2003, 12:39 PMParadox, it depends how you convert the songs
Lossy + RAW - RAW = Lossy
Therfore, if you create a CD of MP3's, you are turing it back to Raw format. Thus, there is not much more the algorithym can do to make it less. I think that's where my train of thought went.
Lossy = AAC
RAW = Wave (.wav)
So you're saying, burn a song I bought to a CD as .wav, then re-rip it using .wav?
That would make the files huge...even though, you're right, there would be little loss of quality.
No, no. A CD is also a RAW file. So by converting a lossy file to a RAW file (Burning a CD), then exctracting it (Rip the CD), you should not get the bad quality. Understand now? (Y)
Originally posted by wizard@Oct 31 2003, 02:44 PMNo, no. A CD is also a RAW file. So by converting a lossy file to a RAW file (Burning a CD), then exctracting it (Rip the CD), you should not get the bad quality. Understand now? (Y)
I understand what you're saying, but...with all due respect, you're not correct.
AAC files are ripped off of a CD. In other words, Apple takes a music CD and rips it into the AAC format. While AAC might be a *good* format to rip things into, it's still a "lossy" format. i.e., it's not a pure wav file and the AAC file only has the important parts of the song (i.e., there's stuff stripped out of the music so that the AAC file becomes smaller).
Therefore, we're buying a lossy-quality song on the internet for $.99
When we burn that song onto a CD, the song is converted to a .wav file. This means that the "lossy" song was converted into a "pure" format -- but this .wav file is only as "perfect" as the AAC file was. Therefore, the .wav file that you burned to a CD is not perfect unlike the original CD copy that Apple probably owns...
Now...take that .wav file on the CD (which originated from a AAC file), and re-rip it to another format (whether AAC or mp3, or whatever). You are taking this IMPERFECT .wav file and making it more imperfect b/c mp3 or AAC is a lossy format. Therefore, you're making the song that you original purchased (which was alredy lossy) and making it even more lossy to strip the DRM off the song...
Catch my drift?
So long as it's encoded the same way it was before being burnt to CD. Taking an MP3, burning it to CD, then ripping from the CD to OGG probably WILL result in loss still. I'm probably stating the obvious and making myself look dumb, but oh well. :shy:
Your right Paradox, but the losses won't be as severe as you think. I'm s(h)ure in time there will be a codec for AAC that you can use on your mac if not already available.
What I do is burn the AACs to a CD, then rip them in FLAC, which is a lossless audio codec, but still compressed.
This gives you exactly the same quality, but it uses more space(i have it though).
Also, there may be a program that runs AACs on Linux, i'll check.
XMMS has an AAC plugin that uses libFAAD2.
So check it out, and dont worry about all this conversion crap.
FLAC? could you expand on that? :interested:
FREE LOSSLESS AUDIO CODEC.
Its like WAV, as it doesnt have any removal of "bits", but it then takes that lossless song and compresses it using lossless compression (like ZIP or GZIP or RAR).
So you get a smaller file, but no loss in quality.
and its open source, so it plays almost anywhere. 
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