Every 3-6 Months, It Starts Again

Please, kids...

the rules are simple:

This is NOT a democracy.

I don't know everything.

YOU dont know everything.

I am a smarty pants.

very few of you obviously have a sense of humor.

People are lazy.

Oh, and did I mention that ON THE TOP OF EVERY FORUM IT SAYS THIS?~!?!?

Threads can and will be edited, deleted, moved, if we see fit.

This is NOT a Political nor a Religious board. Post anything off-topic and it will BE CLOSED!

If you have a problem with a post/topic/user anything, Please report it to an Admin!

and a few other basics:

USE THE SEARCH!

READ THE f***ING MANUAL!

THINK FIRST!

Yeah yeah, some of you dont appreciate my sarcasm. Woop dee doo.

and some of you hate that there are actually rules. Oh, SOOOo sorry. Would you like me to call you a WAH=mbulance?

The reason i have been so active in deletion of posts and such is because the Mods are getting lazy again. I found posts for Y'z dock in the Desktop pics section, just as an example.

Let's take on a few of your complaints:

"The mods here seem to have lost touch as to why there mods."

Huh? how so? By following rules and keeping the forums clear of redundant posts and ridiculous questions? It's our duty. We're not here to please the masses with our abilities, only to keep order. What? You want i should wipe your butt for you?

"Someones stupid question is another mans important one."

I only say it's stupid because they dont put forth the effort to actually use the damn search feature or look around a little. if it exists, it's here, trust me.. Otherwise, go nuts...show us your IQ.

"What is the bloody point in having a public aqua-soft forum when the limits on what one can post"

Keep it Aqua or Mac OS related, and we will get along FINE. Boring posts like "HEY! What's in your playlist?!?" and "I just saw [insert movie name here] and it ROCKED da Hizz-ouse" are going to be summarily deleted. period. There are other forums for that.

"when members become equally as enthused, you start to go crazy with 'don't post here but post there', 'this has been discussed here or there' 'stop posting about this you are driving us crazy'"

I don't see the problem here. We mantained order, informed the offenders, and moved all the posts to the right forum...maybe YOU are just mad that we didnt do it YOUR way. Shhh...I think i hear that WAH-mbulance coming.

"Why can't it be MY way? Why are there so many rules? I'm telling mommy!!!"

because...it isnt your forum. It's EVERYONES. I cant please them all, but i seem to do fine pleasing many. So, you few who hate me or my ways, i dont care...honestly. I could give a rats ass because i get nothing but rave reviews from the MAJORITY.

As do our mods and fellow admins.

in Conclusion, try back-tracking our forums and reading up on the last group of 'do-gooders' who thought their way was the right way...you will see who came out on top.

And no, i do NOT think this post belongs in our forum, so it too will be gone soon...

have a great day.

PS - I reserved a sense of humor for some of you, you can pick it up at Amazon.

#66629

Thank you, this was needed. I completley agree, though not ALL non-aqua should be deleted.

The post was fine, but saying "WAHmbulance" really crossed the line. <_<

A little plug:

For all your "chit chat" go to twistedcpu.com. (run by our very own Timan and DZ) This is a more general-computing forum and is not as specific as Aqua-Soft.

EDIT:\\

Oh, and this thread was not meant to be a debate over forum politics, any arguing or non-duckie agreeing will get the thread closed.

#66632

Originally posted by contrasutra@Oct 18 2003, 07:12 PM

I completley agree, though not ALL non-aqua should be deleted.

The post was fine, but saying "WAH=mbulance" really crossed the line. <_<

If it has a general connection to Aqua, like resource issues or an app which helps our mods...fine, but posts about what cheese goes with white wine is out of the question.

And damn it...I LIKED Wah-mbulance

#66633

Right, that's what I meant.

I figured some people might interpret "Aqua only" as "all posts about Brushed or Panther will be deleted".

I guess the WAH-mbulance comment hit a little too close to home.

#66637

Oh, I forget...did i call the WAH-mbulance out on you once before?

#66638

<<<<<,agrees, You guys are the mods and admins of this board, it is your job to clean up the silliness. I highly approve of the job everyone around here does! Keep it up, yall are what makes this community what it is!

#66647

for those of you wanting to do research about the last group of "do gooders" i doubt you'll find anything lol. If you did it would be by me, videomann, etc

btw, duckie, im surprised u didn't close this thread

maybe u r budging... just a little...

#66709

for those too lazy to look:

link # 1 - http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/index.php?s...?showtopic=3769

link #2 - http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/index.php?a...t=ST&f=9&t=3504

and because this thread was deleted, here's my post:

Posted: Jun 7 2003

This is a discussion Clockwise and I had tonight. It explains my views in a little better detail.

Warning: Do not take everything I say offensively until you have fully grasped the reality of the words. I am not disrespecting our younger contingent, only making valid points.

Duckie: Your so cute when you're angry

Clockwise: You're making me angry... you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...

Duckie: heh

Duckie: Honestly, why did you think it was me?

Clockwise: Your iron-fist is legendary!!

Duckie: yes, but also assumed

Duckie: I'm one of about 20 mods over there

Duckie: and though I will agree I have gained a rep as being a cranky old man, I wouldnt bite the hand that feeds me

Duckie: your thread was removed, from what I understand, because (name removed) got beligerent and rude

Clockwise: I suppose. I suppose. I was a little frustrated,

Duckie: Also, it still exists

Duckie: it's just 'hidden'

Clockwise: Hrmph!

Duckie: we have a forum for removed threads

Duckie: they sit, waiting for all the mods to look over, and never get deleted

Clockwise: Why not make it public?

Duckie: do you know how many people posted to that thread?

Duckie: about 20

Duckie: that's alot of generic PM's

Clockwise: Not sure what you mean.

Duckie: ok, what you think would work is make a thread saying why the other thread was closed, right?

Duckie: well...doing so would invite the same banter

Duckie: so, we resort to PM's

Duckie: but PM'ing THAT many people is inefficient

Duckie: so, we hope our 'clientelle' is smart enough to realize why a thread was removed

Clockwise: Oh. Just move the deleted threads to a "DELETED THREADS" folder, but keep that folder publicly viewable. If everyone knows it is a DELETED THREADS folder, no one will hold it against the site if they get shocked and appaled by looking at it.

Duckie: not our policy, unfortunately

Duckie: but i will pass the word along

Duckie: fact is...if we were to leave those threads veiwable, someone else would start another based on them

Clockwise: At least rename "general talk" to "general skinning talk" if you won't let anything fly.

Duckie: so, what is not seen, is not remembered

Clockwise: Let them stay both viewable and postable.

Duckie: I'll let almost anything fly, I really will, but there are millions of Invision boards for religion, politics, etc...

Duckie: opening pandoras box on that site has had dire circumstances before

Duckie: like hacking

Duckie: and so on

Duckie: It's not that I won't bend. In all honesty, if you were to see some of the threads we have had to delete, even YOU might be angry

Clockwise: Invision is the host?

Duckie: so instead of flame wars and rhetoric, we squash it

Duckie: no, Invision is the board phh

Duckie: *php

Clockwise: I can understand illegal content. But not disagreements.

Clockwise: Uh... the board comes with rules about what it can be used for?

Duckie: disagreements are fine too...but homophobia, or disrespecting someones religion of choice are not

Duckie: no no, your getting me all wrong. What I mean is if people have that much urge to discuss such things, why not take it to a more appropriate board?

Duckie: I mean, if they want a real discussion on the right wings view on gays, why not take it to a board where that is the topic?

Clockwise: It should be discussed where it comes up. I don't think it is practical to pack up with 20 members and go to someone else's board.

Duckie: such off the wall posts by the likes of (name removed) are diversions from the purpose of our site and make the kiddies digress into foaming at the mouth fools

Clockwise: It doesn't matter if that happens. It is in a general talk folder. There are no negative consequences of that!

Duckie: it's who we deal with, CW, not what we deal with

Clockwise: I don't follow.

Duckie: your board has alot of people over the age of 20. Your average age group is probably 25. Our's is 16. You and I both know they have issues grasping such delicate issues with an open mind

Duckie: it becomes messy

Clockwise: Create a folder and label it messy. Write "don't read this" in the desc. line.

Duckie: lol

Duckie: wish it were that easy

Duckie: but as I have said, leaving such things visible feeds the fire

Clockwise: Fire is alright! Argument is healthy!

Duckie: yes, when handled in a mature mannere

Duckie: *manner

Duckie: but our site is sadly lacking in that

Duckie: and yes, I realize the irony of that statement

Clockwise: Hence the 100 13 year old boys. Anyhow. I gotta get some sleep.

So, as you see--I am not the only person moderating this forum. Just because things go missing does not automatically mean I am the culprit. However, I do wield the sword on such taboo topics as religion, politics, and so on when they become disrespectful.

As a community that is belittled and bombarded by those who wish us gone, it should be our mission to stick together, not create a divide. Creating a thread about YOUR point of view, then bashing all who disagree is NOT debate nor is it healthy to our environment.

Community:

Pronunciation: k&-'myü-n&-tE

1 : a unified body of individuals:

b : the people with common interests living in a particular area

c : an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location

d : a group of people with a common characteristic or interest living together within a larger society

e : a group linked by a common policy

f : a body of persons or nations having a common history or common interests

g : a body of persons of common and especially professional interests scattered through a larger society

We should not create dissent, or that will be the disease that kills us.

Relax, discuss, and share! But please, remember what we are and where we are before you decide to create a rift between members.

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An adendum I feel I should add:

I do remove some posts in the desktop thread, but if you take a closer look, you will notice I have added a few hings too.

For instance, if someone asks for a wallpaper, and that post gets answered, I put the response in the post of the original author so that everyone has an opportunity to get it.

If I see a thread regarding something that is easily found in search, I remove it, and PM the author to utilize that feature. (Which reminds me...when doing a search, you MIGHT want to consider widening the search time period. That seems to be the biggest problem for those who cannot find what it is they wanted)

So people want me to curb my sarcasm?

Why? It's called a sense of humor. All of you should get one. They're nice to have. I leave mine out in the open. Keeps me sane.

Age?

No issue in my book usually, unless we're talking about peoples reactions to adult conversation. Yeah, so i slip every now and then and say stupid crap...big deal. I'm goinna mess up with the best of them. So, no apologies. As I said, I dont need acceptance from anyone, just understanding. In other words, understand that I come off being a jerk.

My posts and postcount...

Many of my posts from the past have been lost from the board crashing and also, i remove many of my own posts. DZ and the crew wouldnt have allowed me this position if they hadnt been aware of my contributions and additions to the community over the YEARS.

Thank you's.

Why dont you see them? Because unlike the post count whores, I dont need to display it on a board to gain recognition or a higher count. Ask around, I PM developers and skinners and the like. I send them a personalized thank you in there PM box for later, so they dont miss it in the thousands of other posts in their thread. And they respond EVERY time. THAT is what I call interaction. I took the time to send them a personal note, so they appreciate that MORE than a random one in a thread.

Fear.

Oh please. I'm friggin harmless. I'm a big teddy bear IRL. Problem is that our board(and this takes care of your reference to our average age being 18. Sorry, but maybe you need to pay closer attention to that thread. It said 16) has alot of younger people. They are great to have, they contribute alot, but they lack in social skills sometimes, therefore my stern moods seem beligerent and crass. I'm not an authoritarian. by ANY means.

#66724

Well, all I know is Ive not had any problems with any of the mods here. I've had posts closed/removed and such, but they should of been closed because they were posts out of boredom.

I just don't understand why people get so bent out of shape when there posts are removed.

As an Idea, all the mods and admins should just let everything in this place go for a week or so, pointless threads, offensive threads, etc etc etc, when the people cant take sifting through page after page after page of useless junk, they will be BEGGING you guys to clean stuff up. They just fail to recognize how great this place is, because yall keep it clean, weed out the pointless posts and whatnot. So when one of their precious little pointless threads get closed or removed, they feel some sort of injustice. What is so hard to understand about "ANYTHING OFF TOPIC WILL BE REMOVED"

Honestly, all of the mods here are great, and treat everyone with respect, those who feel they should be able to post what they want when they want dont fully understand what this place is all about.

#66726

Originally posted by Photo678@Oct 19 2003, 01:34 AM

Well, all I know is Ive not had any problems with any of the mods here.  I've had posts closed/removed and such, but they should of been closed because they were posts out of boredom. 

I just don't understand why people get so bent out of shape when there posts are removed. 

As an Idea, all the mods and admins should just let everything in this place go for a week or so, pointless threads, offensive threads, etc etc etc, when the people cant take sifting through page after page after page of useless junk, they will be BEGGING you guys to clean stuff up.  They just fail to recognize how great this place is, because yall keep it clean, weed out the pointless posts and whatnot.  So when one of their precious little  pointless threads get closed or removed, they feel some sort of injustice.  What is so hard to understand about "ANYTHING OFF TOPIC WILL BE REMOVED"

Honestly, all of the mods here are great, and treat everyone with respect, those who feel they should be able to post what they want when they want dont fully understand what this place is all about.

Well said, thank you!

#66734

whoa! wait a second, are you saying this forum is for aqua related stuff, if i remember right this is "General Discussion" thats what this forum is for, stupid crap, there is an aqua discussion forum right under it.

or am i missing something else...

sure was a sh##load of text up there

#66737

Ditto, WTF ?

#66739

I can see where Duckie is coming from. This forum does have allot of under age members and visitors and the content should be of a quality as to not incite the anger of a parental figure. So keeping questionable topics "TABOO" and OFF LIMITS" in this forum is a good idea and its politically correct as well. This forum was made to discuss the art of skinning the GUI of Operating Systems and as such should remain true to its goal. As Duckie said there are more then enough forums around the web for having discussions that might make some members and visitors and the like uneasy about what might be being said in here. If the content is kept clean and GUI oriented we should all be fine with it. I for one don't want to come in here to discuss sexual behavior or religion and I don’t want to find it in here. There are times and places for that but it is not in this forum. I consider myself a very open minded person and probably one of the oldest members (as in age) in the forum so lets leave things as they are. You go right on monitoring the forum the way you are Duckie and the other Administrators and Moderators should be just as diligent.

Enough said I now step down from my soapbox.

#66757

so is this about members not following rules or members getting pissed over deleted stuff?

OR

is this about mods getting pissed deleting stuff or about mods getting pissed at people who got pissed at them for deleting stuff.

OR

all of the above?

i mean... you are going in circles. and from what i read, everyone's pissed.

#66768

- Open the browser and point to aqua-soft and read any stupid post ---> 30 seconds

- Make an advanced search in aqua-soft looking for some technical question ----> 5 minutes

- Trying to find an exited fight point-of-view kind post ----> 15 minutes

- Open Aqua-soft and read Dukie pissed off for some 30 IQ ppl -----> PRICELESS!!!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NICE SHOT DUKIE!!!!!

You r right, u r the man. Our mods r ppl with great sense of humor, with great capabilities and they r not stupids to deleted something important right here.

Order and discipline.... that's all.... that's the secret

KEEP DOING THIS GREAT WORK MEN!

peace

P.S. GENERAL don't mean STUPID POSTS at all (ie. how many watts did you spend last month........ JESUS!!!!!) I think there are so many places in internet to spend time in this class of generic questions, not here, this is an advanced place, for advanced questions for ppl with IQ 80 or more, trying to mod their machines in some way (hardware, software) or for ppl with any trouble in their machines. NICE COMUNITY. And yes, about 3/6 months cycles. My personal opinion guys

#66868

Timan and Smeggy, no

I was just reposting an old entry for those who arent aware that we have this same issue pop up every 3-6 months, and always starts the same way:

Someone getting mad at mods and admins doing their job.

We get lazy every so often and things get out of and and posts run rampant with no policing, so when we DO come back out of the woodwork, they get mad that things arent the way THEY like them.

and as for me coming out of the woodwork, I lost my computer for a while and had no access to the net.

but now, I'm back

#66895

So, then, just to recap:

This is, quote-unquote, a "General Discussion Forum... NOT a Political nor a Religious board... [and it is okay to] General[ly] talk about ALMOST anything..."

So then, obviously, MUSIC is out of the question.

Spot the sarcasm?

#66940

Originally posted by ji eun@Oct 19 2003, 01:59 PM

So then, obviously, MUSIC is out of the question.

If it pertains directly to a media player we discuss on these boards, then no it isnt out of the question.

But if it is about what you have on your playlist, it is not. That doesnt directly involve the GUI or the apps, except for your personal taste and so on.

I, and many others like me, could care less what someone has on their Top 25 list...it's not a post we need here, it takes up space

#66941

I agree with all the posts so far, but what I totally disagree with is a topic being deleted while I'm replying to it! Confused the hell out of me! Not on.

#66950

Originally posted by Ludge@Oct 19 2003, 02:26 PM

...what I totally disagree with is a topic being deleted while I'm replying to it!

It's bound to happen.

but if you look, I also combimned/merged topics, so maybe the post you are looking for DOES exist, only in the RIGHT thread, not (a) seperate one(s)

#66957

i try to stay on topic and offer good answers to the best of my ability. i apologize if i strayed off topic.

#66959

Originally posted by dreamz@Oct 19 2003, 02:47 PM

i try to stay on topic and offer good answers to the best of my ability.  i apologize if i strayed off topic.

and that's all we ask.

thank you

#66961

So there were these three politicians, a Rabbi, a Priest and a ... *DOH* >.

#66991

Originally posted by smeggy@Oct 19 2003, 12:23 PM

So there were these three politicians, a Rabbi, a Priest and a ... *DOH*  >.

:cry: Smackme, whats up with your avatar? is it going to be broken foreva or whot?

#67198

*****, *****, *****! :6

Stupid Comcast changing domains on me. <_<

#67319