Aqua-Soft ForumsMost emulators need roms to run them and i've got two macintosh roms but i dont know what to do with them! how do I load them into my pc? How to I use them to make the emulator run?
Thanx, CyberWoofer :mr_cool:
[help] Mac Roms
i don' know all that well but i know that it depend on the emulator. Currently you can't emulate higher then either ver. 7 or 8 on mac.
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I think you should use Basilisk II, You can emulate up to Mac OS 8.1. The reason for that is beacause Basilisk II can't emulate PowerPC at this time. Only the moterola 680** (Mac 68K).
I'm surprised ClockWise hasent been here yet...
Thanx guys! Just one more question - Does it effect the emulator if you have for example a Mac OS 5 rom and use it for a Mac OS 8 emulator? 
Thanks, CyberWoofer :mr_cool:
Uhh.. you seem to have misunderstood something there.
You emulate HARDWARE. Like, a MAC Performa 500 (or whatever the model type). Then you will install an OS on that emulated hardware.
To explain things from the PC-point of view:
if you want to emulate a Pc, you first emulate the hardware, like a Compaq type 1234. Then you install the OS, lets say Win ME.
There is no "Mac OS 8" emulator or such a thing.
(Well, there is an Appleworks emulator, but thats a different story).
The guys who make the Fusion emulator also sell the ROMs and a ROM card I think.
Have fun,
McTrinsic
if you load the rom in Basillisk.. and tell it the model.
it will tell you weither or not you can run OS 8.
(some older mac models, can only run up to 7.5)
in wIntel lingo..
the ROM for a mac emulator, is a file that contains your "Bios"
this is not to be confused with ROM's for game emulators..
but doesn't that mean if u have a mac os x rom and put it in ur pc (how ever u do that) and run ur emulator it will run os x?
CyberWoofer :mr_cool:
oh yeah, and i also wnated to know...
How do I actully put them in my pc? do I use some cord conected to the rom and my pc or something similar?
PLZ help
CyberWoofer :mr_cool:
Originally posted by CyberWoofer@Oct 12 2003, 03:53 AMbut doesn't that mean if u have a mac os x rom and put it in ur pc (how ever u do that) and run ur emulator it will run os x?
CyberWoofer :mr_cool:
the rom it'self doesn't have the OS on it..
to run OS X, you would have to have a PowerPC rom. (PowerPC, is the type of processor that newer Macs run on)
the problem, is that PowerPC's are to complicated.
a 700mhz PowerPC G4 Mac, is about the same speed as a 1.4Ghz Intel PC.
this is one of the problems, that is quite obviously a problem.
to run OS X, you need a PowerPC emulator.
no one has one yet.
MAYBE, just maybe, with the introduction of the AMD 64bit processors, there might be a chance, but as it stands now.
the intel processor is not able to run PPC.
it's like trying to get a Horse and buggy to run like a car, not as extreme, but similar..
as for how you get the rom.
the ROM, for most emulators, is a file..
eg. Quadra650.rom
it's a file dump of the rom information, off of an actual Mac.
Basillisk comes with a program for your mac that let's you do this.
you run the program on your mac, then copy the file to your PC.
then, the emulator uses it to boot.
some other emulators, use a physical "Rom Card"
this plug's in Via ISA ( i think some may use PCI)
they are around $150us and still only allows for up to OS8 emulation.
You can download OS 7.5.3 for free from Apple (I'll get you the link if you want), but you'll need to buy OS 8 if you want to use it. I picked it up for £20 on eBay, that's the only place I could find to buy it.
Good luck! 
Actually, ja450n, the ROM could easily contain the operating system.
Originally posted by contrasutra@Oct 12 2003, 09:46 AMActually, ja450n, the ROM could easily contain the operating system.
how are you gonna fit an OS on a 1mb rom?
i've never heard of puting an OS on a ROM...
especially with a Classic Mac.
The OS used to be on the rom back in the first Macintoshes but Apple has been moving stuff out of the rom. Ever since the first iMac came out pretty much all OS related information had been taken out of the rom (like the quickdraw toolbox). In modern (post iMac) Macintoshes the rom only keeps track of the hardware.
It actually is a common misconception that it still works the way it used to.
Then of course OSX doesn't use rom (quickdraw toolbox) functions to draw it's widgets (apart from the classic environment), that's what quartz (display postscript) is for. 
Not to mention that it's based on NeXTSTEP which makes it really not rely on the rom for it's functions apart from again accessing the hardware.
I misunderstood you.
Im talking about the ROM you run on your PC. A ROM is just an bit by bit image of a piece of data.
When you run Basilisk or any emulator, you are running it off of a ROM.