My Reasons For Sticking With Mobydockdx

Hi Moby,

I posted this in the OD .99 thread and I'd like you to see it as well...

/usr,

There is no real better or worse. It's a matter of taste and requirements.

For myself, docklets-I can live without, different attention effects-I can live without, custom run indicators-I can live without, the trash can not at the end of the dock-a little annoying, no built in support for for media players-a little annoying, no exclusion of certain apps/classes from the task area-moderate annoyance, no drag-drop support for files to apps-very annoying, no drag drop support for files to folders-very annoying, no running indicator for certain apps that were already running prior to the dock being started-very annoying...

JMB, I'm going to offer a suggestion as a former developer to a current developer, you may want to focus more attention on the actual usablilty of OD as opposed to its' visibility.

As a user, my primary focus of any application is its' usablility. While visiual effects are sometimes quite useful for providing feedback to the user, when they are just used for the sake of looking nice they lose their appeal very quickly and the app becomes a negative experience in the mind of the user as opposed to a positive one.

I like the new ObjectDock release but for the moment I'm sticking with MobyDockDX.

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Those are my reasons for sticking with MobyDockDX..I really like the program and intend to support and use it for a long time to come

#49366

woo join the club.. i love mobydock.. i tried the new .99a.. its a great release best OD yet.. but i jsut got sucked back into mobydock...

thanks to moby and jef for such a great program!

-bolero

#49369

Yep, me too. Mobeydock is just that bit smoother and sweeter.

#49375

Oh, come on, we don't need another Dock Flame war (who would have thought these existed).

Your suggestions were valid, but they didn't need a whole thread, just to "rub it in".

Also, I think you were being a little condescending to Jeff.

#49378

i find y'z better than both of those.

#49379

yeah actually lets not get into another war here

but i decided to use both docks heh

od on the side and md on the bottom......... and then yz on the other side.... yeah its awesome

-bolero

#49389

Originally posted by contrasutra@Aug 23 2003, 04:03 PM

Oh, come on, we don't need another Dock Flame war (who would have thought these existed).

Your suggestions were valid, but they didn't need  a whole thread, just to "rub it in".

Also, I think you were being a little condescending to Jeff.

contra,

I'm still ignoring you, remember? So your opinion of what I do is not important to me.

I'm expressing myself for Moby's and my own benefit.

#49403

haha, weird post grusic when combined with your avatar and information,

just an observance, i'll shut up and leave now....

#49416

This is a forum and you can post your views. I know some people out there would only like you to post your views if they are the status quo but that's not how and open forum works. Anway Contra shouldn't you be posting somewhere about the benefits of linux

I agree with Grusic. It's the little things that kill.

and Mobydock is more useable at this point. I don't lose site of the fact that these are free apps contributed by great guys but if my dock is gonna be useful and not just for leet screenshots I need those featues that od lacks.

#49441

aaack ,

i downloaded mobydock in reponse to this thread, to see how much i'd like this dock.

I like the fact its packaged with a set of docklet(or docklet-like) functions. But what is with both of the docks that have a tasks section not having autofocus.

I've seen some ranting about it with od, and didn't really knew why they were making such a fuss until i dld od to find out that, yep, i made a good choice in choosing y'z first. And same with moby, it needs AF first among other things.

after trying them all out, i''m back to using 3 y'zs. The second either od or moby get AF i'll start using them, cause i love that tasks section, but its just easier to use the wintaskbar as od and mobyd stand right now.

now i'll just crawl back under the log i came from....

#49508

I installed and tried OD .99a for about 10 minutes....back to Mobydock for me. OD STILL doesn't have drag and drop of files onto dock objects - sheesh does Jeff not read any of my posts? I've left enough of them saying that it's a critical feature in my mind...I'd rather have that than having the icon "glow" when I click it. It also didn't seem to reliably open explorer-type files ("My Computer", "C Drive" any folders, etc usually took 2 clicks.)

C'mon Moby...where's your new version :naughty:

#49531

you guys will be surprised to know that moby has been working on a brand new release in the last weekend (0.85), he might have been absent for a while, but its pretty much understood and appreciated. I've been testing the newer version for the past few days now.

I can assure you its un f***ing believable. (Y) :rock: :rule:

On top of all the things grusic mentioned, now there are lots of more awesome visual effects features, as well as 'complete basic functions' such as positioning and resolution detection. Again, that is just the very few "taken for granted" new features he added. A lot of bug fixes to whoever had ones, and optimizing the stability and speed the fps (i think i get like 220fps). Its shocking. I've had the dock run for few days in a row, under tons of heavy visual art applications running in the background, dx games, and sickly abused the dock by running few applications from it simultaniously and in between changing positions on the screen, load the dock up with new items and drag items around - the simply dock refused to crash or have any flaw.

Also, be prepared for a new release soon sometime (the next few days starting from tomorrrow), cause just few minutes ago i got a very advanced update from moby.

A new perfectly complete yet still 0.85 mobygod is in on its way. :who's your daddy:

#52857

I´m trying to help...

I miss the way YzDock came on focus when you get the mouse to the botton of the screen, even with it "always on botton". Get that feature on moby, and i should change for it in no time.

#52864

moby just made something simple and never really bothered completing it.

NOW HE ITS BEING CHANGED

Also, is that the only thing that stops you from using md?

#52876

Frankly, I wish there were 10 more docks to choose from. :naughty: Nothing like good ol' fashioned competition to spur innovation.

Personally, I use Object Dock. It seems a bit more polished and user friendly. YZ Dock is dead in the water so it seems a bit fruitless to use it. That is not to diminish the efforts of Mr. Y who did a fine job. MobyDock.....hmmm......it just doesn't feel right to me. Maybe I should give it another test run.

Anyway, bring on the docks!

#52885

Originally posted by Goku@Sep 3 2003, 08:22 PM

moby just made something simple and never really bothered completing it.

NOW HE ITS BEING CHANGED

Also, is that the only thing that stops you from using md?

Well... it eats some high resources... but i can live with this.

But the focus thing really botters me... i like to use it "always on botton" but "autohide:off"... so i see the dock when minimize the windows... but i like to focus it with the mouse, even without moving the windows... just like some taskbar...

Since Yz is good as dead by now... i want some dock to take the place on my desktop (and OD lacks more features than this... so i bet on Moby).

(Y) Sorry for my english... i´m brazilian... i hope that you understanded what i mean.

#52894

Goku - Excellent news!!!

If 0.85 is even bettter than 0.77, I can't wait... (Y)

#52927

Originally posted by hallf@Sep 3 2003, 03:51 PM

If 0.85 is even bettter than 0.77, I can't wait... (Y)

If?? Even better?

I told moby to have it version 1.+ cause its so unbelievably complete (comparing the features it has NOW with the OS X dock, as far as im concerned, its more than complete).

Soon :harp:

#52933

Hmmmm...reallly great news

Is there an iCal plugin Goku or we create our own docklet??

That will make this dock perfect and unbeatable

#52935

Originally posted by Goku@Sep 3 2003, 08:10 PM

I told moby to have it version 1.+ cause its so unbelievably complete (comparing the features it has NOW with the OS X dock, as far as im concerned, its more than complete).

Goku, you are the KING of advertisement. How much did Moby pay you for this kind of hyping? *nudge nudge*

Seriously, though, I'm using .77 right now, highly satisfied with Moby's work.. but it's dangerous to release a program as 'bugfree' based on one person's results... and Goku, you've always had the best of luck with Mobydock, it always runs perfectly for you, but then once it gets in circulation, people find things.. we're NOTORIUS for ripping a program to shreds once it's released to the public.

Honestly, though, you hyped .77, and .77 kicks ass for me, so if .85 is working this well for you, I have a feeling I'm going to be a very very happy camper in the next week or so.

#52961

Originally posted by Cerebral@Sep 4 2003, 02:15 AM

and Goku, you've always had the best of luck with Mobydock, it always runs perfectly for you,

correction.. since the begining iv also had great lucj with it.. so gokus not alone!

#52963

Ugh, I've never tried MobyDock and thinking never will..

But since reading Goku's post , I might try and see what's gonna happen..

Make sure you put the new update on the main page, Goku! (Y)

#52964

Mobeydock is awesome. Not currently as full featured as the other two, but it's by far the smoothest and quickest, plus the most accurate. Very easy to use and configure.

I can't wait for the new version. (Y)

#52969

you are right cerebral,

But i've had problems with the dock, as much as i've had problems with other docks (bugwise, yeah yz farts sometimes too).

But i can tell you from now, that after installing the LATEST drivers (catalyst drv for my god ATI) everything worked out perfectly. I've had only one problem and that was the background of the dock disappearing one time, but other than that it was ok. That bug annoyed me a lot, and i bugged moby about it everytime i talked with him. But after installing the latest drivers, making sure its installed correctly and following the right procedure of restarting and all that, all these GUI bugs were gone completely. Those problems moby himself never had before, were gone with the wind.

Not to mention he has been refining a lot of the app to be more stable with constant abuse a user might perfome on the dock.

ITS ALL GOOD KIDDIES! :staffs here:

#52973

That's great news about Moby's new release.

I was resistant at first to try Mobdy DX because I did not like the hassle of installing DX9, but I finally got over my resistance and I'm very glad I did.

I had been an Object Dock user for quite some time, but after the latest release I was pretty disappointed.

Sure the new visual effects are interesting, but after awhile I realized that they were just that, effects with no real substance behind them. That's not what I want on my PC.

All the best to you Moby

Grusic

#52974