[disscussion] The Next Release Of Ob. . .docklets

Why was Y'z Dock discontiued? Was it because it indeed came to the closest version of the real dock, and with that the features of the docklets?

Every article I read about Y'z end (supposively from Apple) it didn't really state "why" 100% it was forced into retirement.

My opinion, the docklets.

ObjectDock is awesome, no doubt about that, been using it a long long time. But now we're treading on ice that might be getting thinner and thinner.

What if Apple pulls the same crap with OD as it did with Yz?

The dock has become a must on my PC. All of OD's expire, what if it too is forced to a doomed end, .95 expires. . .no more dock.

Just afraid that's all.

I can't lose my dock man. ObjectDock is nice and neat, stable, doesn't use "too" much system resources, is useful, and a must on all machines. But when this one expires, its done and done. Always considered it better than Y'z mainly because it didn't try and BE the real Dock, it was its own creation, and it was useful in its OWN right, thus why it's allowed to continue in progress.

Is there anyway to keep it the way it is with .95, and release a .99 Docklet version too?

Don't flame me too bad, just possibly thinking for the better interest of the community.

#46734

hey don`t say that man! now u made me paranoic! :cry: <_

#46747

Microsoft seems very much ok with those KDE and GNOME 'Taskbar', 'Start Button', 'Notification area' etc..

...meanwhile APPLE will make sure you must pay to think Different. :6

btw> isn't that docklets is just a plug-in that is very common today. i am not sure that is the problem, may be the 'feel' that apple have objection with.

#46842

Well, Apple can only go so far.

I bet Stardock knows abou the AmiDock of the Amiga, which offers similar functions. Perhaps Stardock should place the ObjectDock to be an AmiDock clone.

Have fun,

McTrinsic

#46865

Originally posted by Matthias@Aug 11 2003, 07:26 PM

Why was Y'z Dock discontiued?  Was it because it indeed came to the closest version of the real dock, and with that the features of the docklets?

Why Yz'dock was discontiued? I think that we will never know what was the real reason... Something is sure... Apple have nothing to do with this... Thats for sure.

If you ask me, to me is because the programmer gets tired or he dont receive enough money contribution (remember that have a paypal account) :canadian:

And thats why (to me) he dont want the redistribution of his software. Anyways now doesnt matters :6 (Y)

And if its become the most real or closest dock to apple's dock, I doubt it

Because it have alot of bugs and needs a lot of CPU to run. That sux, you know?

Now, thank God we have ObjectDock that will support docklet (may be is the only thing that keeps alive (?!) Yz'Dock, but I dont know how longer :6 )

ObjectDock has more flood movement and to me its a lot better than Yz'Dock

#46913

I don't think that Yz died because of money and YES, apple really sent him a letter telling him to stop with YzDock.

Now back to the topic, IF apple decide to kill OD as well and you get stuck with a time-bomb version, probably somebody will release a "patch" to bypass that.

Peace

#46952

Originally posted by ZiUL@Aug 12 2003, 07:44 PM

I don't think that Yz died because of money and YES, apple really sent him a letter telling him to stop with YzDock.

Sure... Do you have a copy of that letter?. Anyone on this world have a copy of that letter?... I dont think so... Only the dock's programmer (I dont remember his name)... But, like I said above, now doesnt matters or cares...

And back to the topic, docklets will be a great add to this dock. An awesome jump to this dock. If they start to charge for this dock I will pay for it.

#47051

Getting a tad off topic.

Although, this is some good stuff.

My concerns are if Y'z was forced into retirement, perhaps because of the docklets, (cause we just don't know, I'm assuming here) is it possible with the addition of the Docklets to OB, could it too be forced off the face of the net?

Again, I'm merely guessing here with Y'z. Y'z had something others didn't, the docklets. With the docklets, is it possible that that is the reason why it was put to rest?

If that statement is true then OB needs to be careful of how it deploys the next version of OB. That's all. I do not want to lose my dock, and yes, I will pay for the official mod too. Like I said, I can't live without it anymore.

..........

and that does bring up another good point. . .$$$

Or. . .was Y'z killed because he was accepting donations?

you know how big Corps get when something that was "designed after them" and people pay for a program that was inspired by their original idea.

oh crap. . .never really thought of that angle.

something needs to be done to prevent ObjectDock from being taken from us. I think its getting too sophisticated for its own good. For some strange reason I am unsure of its future. .95 is fine as it is. Docklets would be nice, no doubt, but does it "need" it if its just gonna get taken from us.

If the $$$ issue is true. . .OB is done by simple legal matters.

#47068

i dont think anyone know the main reason behind y'z bt i sure hope a letter doesnt reach OD too :no:

edit: this board doesnt have a :yes: :no: emote

#47134

i think some of u guys r overreacting with assumptions!

until we find out from mr. Yz himself what happned all we can do is :canadian: :canadian: :canadian:

chill out

OD (not OB matthias) is here to stay :6

PS Jeff is to much of a fox to be tricked by Apple

#47141

hmm... I don't think its really a problem for OD to have docklets. I know I have been working on docklet for the past ~3 months... I didn't get any comments or requests to stop making them. I am still inclined, if it is after all from Apple, that it's a power thing.

At any rate, i've been working on the OD SDK for sometime now... so far, looks very promissing! I am currently porting the Capture docklet to OD. We'll see how that goes.

Pals! Don't worry about this for now until a true and legit thing comes up... enjoy!

#47145

The real OSX Dock doesnt have docklets. They are unofficial hacks that Apple DOESN'T like. They have said so themselves. I mean, have you seen Apple release any docklings?

#47149

@contrasutra: true dat! thanks for clearing that out!

#47157

hey albeik, any news about when 0.99 might be released?

please (doggy look)

#47164

heh workin on it, had it all set but brad wanted a docklets tab, and i've been outta town the last day or two (was up til 7am though working on the release the day before i left finishing up and making sure everything was perfect so they could do the release :-P unfortunatly one more thing was desired) back for a day though and have until tomorrow early afternoon to get it together, shouldn't be a problem, and then doin the release. hey, i guess just givin albeik more time to get some od docklets together and btw people, OD is not ever going away... heh we got the letters to, but we have laywers.

back to work, cya cya

-Jeff

#47184

Did you read my suggestion about referring to AmiDock on the other thread?

Have fun,

McTrinsic

#47215

contrasutra. . .good good point.

my mind at ease, finally.

(Y)

oh yeah. . .O D, forgive my typing fast late late late at night.

duh?

:canadian:

#47229

Yeah! :own: :own:

C'mon Jeff and finally release this thing, I just can't wait!

I switched to OD from Y'z and I really don't regret that Y'zDock had been killed. OD is really better. Me loves it :rule:

#47230

Stardock is BIG. Apple can't afford to pull the same stunt it did on Mr. Y. on STARDOCK. I hope.

#47234

Originally posted by Pe7er@Aug 14 2003, 07:33 AM

I switched to OD from Y'z and I really don't regret that Y'zDock had been killed. OD is really better.

I do the same... Yz'Dock will definitely die pretty soon and pretty fast... (Y)

yea

#47280

Originally posted by Blade@Aug 14 2003, 03:31 PM

I do the same... Yz'Dock will definitely die pretty soon and pretty fast...  (Y)

yea

Well, there are somethings that are keeping Yz users, such as me, from switching to OD.

1. The inability to add Seperators to OD. >.

#47283

I am happy with both... Each has its own benefits... and I use both!

#47287

Originally posted by uhohzitzcooky+Aug 14 2003, 03:45 PM-->

QUOTE(uhohzitzcooky @ Aug 14 2003, 03:45 PM)

#47288

Originally posted by uhohzitzcooky@Aug 14 2003, 03:45 PM

Well, there are somethings that are keeping Yz users, such as me

yes... you are right. But a limited group of users can use that dock. Because, at least I remember, it cant be distributed and used (I remember that the author say something about that)... So...

Anyways ObjectDock will support docklets and still in developing, that means that any improvement will be added. Why not?.

#47383

why, oh why brad wanted that tab :cry:

we could hv been using docklets by now :cry:

lol

just kidding

u guys rock (Y)

don`t make it fast, make it good

#47438