injecting id tags in cda's

not really. well, kinda. here's what i'm after...

my car cd player supports cd-text. so, for my viewing pleasure (as well as archival purposes) i rip my cd's, make sure they're tagged correctly, then burn 'em for use in the car. everything works hunky-dory, except...

a lot of my cd's have segues between the songs. (in case you don't know what that is: a segue (pr: seg-way) is a cross-fade from one song to the next, with no gap). when i set the gap between songs to 0 (i use sonic oem), i still get about a 1/4 second pause while it switches tracks. it was even worse in nero. so, the bottom line is...

how can rip and burn a seamless audio cd with tags?

did i explain that okay?

#416049

You should be able to do this with Nero very easily without the segue between the tracks because I do it all the time. From past experience, some recording have these segue as part of the actual tracks which will make it difficult to remove them unless physical editing the individual tracks. Could that be the culprit? From what you have posted, it appears that you are doing it correctly.

Give this program a shot because I use all the time to rip, tag, encode, and burn CDs. It is called Easy CD-DA Extractor. You can get it from here:

http://www.poikosoft.com

It will automaticall tag the files for you, gives you customizing options to remove gaps from audio files, tweak your ripping configuration, and CD burning. I think it's one of the best shareware apps out there for this type of stuff.

Hope this helps.

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thx, iiswiis. i guess i did not explain what very well what i'm trying to accomplish. i like the segues and want the segues. think of this: when i play a store bought cd in my home or car player, it plays just like its supposed to. it'll segue cleanly from track to track and change the track number displayed on the player at the appropriate time. the only thing i'm missing is tags. if i rip-and-burn, i get the tags, but i get these brief pauses in the middle of the segues, which i don't want.

keep them ideas comin'!!

#416110

Sounds like you are burning TAO instead of DAO... If you rip the songs exactly as they are on the CD, the tagging process should not add gaps. I'm not trying to be insulting here... just doing my due diligence to make sure your settings are correct.

If you are using Nero 7, make sure you have selected/modified the following setting:

1) When you select burn an audio CD, a dialog box will appear and select CDA tab. Make sure "Remove silence at the end of audio track" is selected.

2) Nero inherently put two second gaps after each audio track which can be frustrating. After the songs are added to list, you will see the two second gap following the trackname/duration. Change the gap to zero except for the first song... All audio CDs need that two second gap on the first track.

If you have done these steps, it has got to be how you are ripping the tracks. What do you use to do the ripping?

Hope this helps.

#416118

interesting...i didn't think about dao vs. tao. dadburnit, i'm gonna hit it that way! thx for the idea!

btw, i guess i've been unclear about something: i never suspected that tagging the tracks is the reason for the gaps. i actually suspected either my burning software (sonic) or some inherent flaw in the mp3 format.

thx for sticking with me, iiswiis!

#416120

No worries... CD ripping/burning is one of my strengths. I have been burning CDs since the 2x days and I had to hook up my burner via the parallel port. ;-) Scary, huh? It also took all the resources from my machine too.

MP3s inherently have gaps in them if you use the default settings within the MP3 encoders. The newer generation of encoders/codecs allow you to remove these gaps but if it's an older encoded MP3 file, it may have gaps at the end. Just keep that in mind to.

Good luck and let me know if that fixes the issue.

#416125

2) Nero inherently put two second gaps after each audio track which can be frustrating. After the songs are added to list, you will see the two second gap following the trackname/duration. Change the gap to zero except for the first song... All audio CDs need that two second gap on the first track.

You know why audio cd's need a gap between 1st and 2nd track? I must be related to burned CD's, though thats a bit strange. I have a lot of original (pressed) discs without any gaps, for instance recordings of live-concerts and classical music.

#416126

You know why audio cd's need a gap between 1st and 2nd track? I must be related to burned CD's, though thats a bit strange. I have a lot of original (pressed) discs without any gaps, for instance recordings of live-concerts and classical music.

Jenschrrh - All first tracks on audio CDs have this 2 second gap so that t complies with CD audio standads established by Phillips/Sony in the 80s. You don't hear it when you play the actually CD because the player is programmed to ignore it.

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Ok, I didn't know that. On the other hand, I've never read the actual standard so that "might" be the reason

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