Y'z Development Update

From what I have read Apple wasn't really for docklings on the OSX dock. So it probably wasn't because of docklets.

Anyway I think it's sad that they have made him stop. I was looking forward to added core features but it looks like it'll never happen now.

There are\where still quite a few things it needed to be exactly like the OSX dock though which are:

a. My task idea

b. skin a dock features

c. minimize area

d. OpenGL perhaps

e. Genie effect =Þ

But (and I'm probably dreaming saying this), what if they hired him to polish up Y'z dock and bundle it as an extra with a sort of iLife for windows along with iTunes and whatever else they might put in that suite.

Another idea that might be a good idea is a Y'z Dragthing or something. He could get permission from the Dragthing people and they could even offer it on their site as the windows version.

#36909

I have just switched to y's dock after being a very loyal OD user.

The docklets are magic, I had no idea.

This dock is magic I love it, too bad it is a little slower than od on my low end system,

Still though a great little app by a legend.

#36913

Yay, a convert!

:wine_party: :hey_suga:

#36926

Originally posted by sweet_laurel@Jun 30 2003, 10:10 PM

Yay, a convert!

:wine_party:  :hey_suga:

SWITCHER. :order:

#36929

I dunno for how long,.. system is grinding. Windows are rolling down when maximised,... the whole thing feels sluggish,... (options make no difference),.. any tips?

EDIT:// Converted back,.. it was just too much for my p3 500 laptop.

Damn this notebook damn it to hell,... howma gonna live without that juicy green power docklet,.. it has been reverted back to an icon for a link to my power options,.. damn it damn it to hell!,..

Is there any chance of using docklets with od95?

that green juice was curtlin

#36931

OpenGL support would be VERY nice, a hardware acceleration would speed things up a bit, but its sad to see that Apple cut Mr. Y short . Perhaps another Rogue programmer will pick up where he may have left off until Apple decides to shut it all down, hehe.

#36946

I couldn't stay away from y's,..

What I did was keep running the 10x benchmark while incrementally making the dock+magnification smaller.

I started at 58-128 size which gave my low end system 22fps,... and then

stopped making the dock smaller when the fps went to over 40.

To break 40 fps, I had to have a dock size of 48-110, which I find quite usable,.. and no more slow downs! And ofcourse we get the curtlin juice.

#37101

what graphics card r u using? i was getting awefull (sp) results until i updated my my 9700 pro w/ the new catalyst drivers, now im getting over 100 fps!

#37114

Heh,...

Ati Rage Mobility -p 8mb (based on Ati Rage Pro)

Dell Inspiron 7500 p3 500 320 Ram

6gb HD (1gb win98 5gb winxp)

Start sending me money!!!!!!

#37118

Brandon started a thread about it on aquaxp.com:

don't you think apple 'stole' wharf from windowmaker? that's older than osxdock..

#37123

Originally posted by contrasutra@Jul 1 2003, 02:31 AM

Lets do a protest. We can all meet at Apple headquarters and march against their unfair treatment of Mr. Y, Jef, and others.

"No blood for Aqua" , and the more effective "YOU SUCK".

Im serious. Wheres Apples headquarters at?

You'll find Apple HQ at:

1, Infinite Loop

Cupertino

California

USA

A frankly cool address. I'd love to live on a street called "Infinite Loop".

#37125

M.Y Copied Apple And Apple Copied Microsoft So When Microsoft Finds Out I Hope They Will Not Put Switching Users In Their Next Version Of Mac. Whoever says yes about this pm me.

#37501

APPLE COPIED??????!!!!!! WTF r u talking about ::cough::GUI::cough::

#37508

This who copied who thing is stupid.

The difference is that Mr. Y was attempting to clone an apple product.

And if you want to talk Fast User switching, Unix has had it for 30 years.

#37510

yeah, everyone copies everyone, it's why all of the os's are good, they know the others are going to copy in their next version, so they have to try harder to add more unique features to stay ahead, or get an edge, plus copy the other ppls, it's actually a GOOD thing! Apple doesn't understand that...

#37512

If you really must know, NeXTStep was first, it had the first "dock". Afterstep and Windowmaker copied from that. Litestep on windows copied afterstep and renamed it to the wharf.

NeXT was bought by apple and OSX is the evolution of the first one (NeXTStep) and has no ties to the xfree window managers (afterstep or windowmaker). Either way, Apple owns the rights to the original (NeXT) dock and the OSX dock.

#37514

LOL. WindowMaker was meant to be a NeXT clone with Drag n' drop (unlike Afterstep). Didn't that troll realize that.

Though "Warf" came from Afterstep, not litestep.

#37515

You might be right about the wharf. But I'm very sure the rest of what I said is on the money.

#37516

Yup, you are correct on the rest of it. (Y)

That Brandon is an asshole.

#37519

No more development on Y'z Shadow ?

Thanks.

#38153

I wish Mr. Y would make his dock sourcecode be "secretly" available so that everyone (i mean trusted people or developers) will be able to improve it.

#38419

i dont see that happping anytime soon

#38424

Originally posted by contrasutra@Jun 30 2003, 07:31 PM

Lets do a protest. We can all meet at Apple headquarters and march against their unfair treatment of Mr. Y, Jef, and others.

"No blood for Aqua" , and the more effective "YOU SUCK".

Im serious. Wheres Apples headquarters at?

cupertino, california

#38433

This is a very sad and very unfortunate discovery on my behalf today. I was running Y'z happily for several months now, finally getting everything the way I wanted to. Next thing I know, I come to this site this morning and find out that the development for the software is no longer supported...

What a horrible shame! I must say that I hope this turns out to be a prank and, indeed, the letter was not really from Apple.

What a shame...

#39108

all this proves is no other dock in comaparison can imitate the Apple Dock as good as Y'z by the way what version did he stop on? and i think the only way anyone will ever be able to get that source code without M. Y. facing legal troubles is some hacker that can get the source code ? Ya know if Xerox was only smart enough to sue apple way back then there would only be on kinda platform and all efforts and creativity would merge into one making it better than any apple or any windows to date.

#39942