iPod 5G Video Review- XP user perspective

I previously posted this review in an old thread- but it was not being read, so I decided to give it more notice to people looking for ipod reviews, by giving it a new title.

Before I begin I must state my bias- I love apple, but previously bought an old Creative Zen Touch 20GB which I grew to love. I use my iPod with a WIndows Xp SP2 machine. I will try and give the most fair and reasonable review and will give some comparison;

Music Quality

Perfect, couldn't ask for much better- iPod remains a music first machine and does it great with a range of EQ settings- no custom EQ as yet- but I haven't needed it.

Body and Appearance

Thats one of the main reason that we buy iPod's for isn't It? It's extremely thin, the shiney metalic back looks fab, and the white/black face just so...perfect...(until you get a million scratches)

Size measurement details

imperial measurement; http://www.apple.com/ipod/specs.html

or for Metric; http://www.apple.com/au/ipod/specs.html

BUT, this thing scratches very very easily, you'll want to buy a case BEFORE you get your new iPod. I made the mistake of putting off buying a case for a week or so, now I have scratches everywhere- including the screen.

I had a Creative Zen Touch for roughly a year and dropped it hard several times, without barely a scratch, I guess scratches and lots of them are the price we pay for iPod's elegance.

The good news is, that when the bright display is on, most scratches are barely visible on the screen.

Cases

A small neo-prene case is included with the iPod and is a nice snug fit, but doesn't offer genuine protection and lacks access to the controls and the screen.

I decided to to go the cheap way and modify...I used a sharp stanly blade and some plastic contact in order to cut a hole for the screen and click wheel- It worked well, and I used the contact to cover the screen... but I DON'T reccommend it unless you know what you are doing...and make sure you take the iPod out first before cutting...

While there are plenty of useful cases out there for standard iPods, there is still a very limited amount for the iPod 5G, epecially if you want one with access to all the controls and the screen visble...harder yet if you're looking in Australia for a leather wallet version with access to the dock connector...

Interface

The interface of the iPod will make you happy- nice bright and bold colours, with clear images and symbols, mac styling all the way. Looks gold, simple and good looking.

There are excellent fast transitions between menu screens and album art feature works a treat.

Navigation and Controls

iPod is famous for its clickwheel and for good reason, it allows for extremely accurate song selection compared to the Zen touch. The Zen touch's touchpad was over/under sensitive, apple's clickwheel is extremely precise and intuitive.

The clickwheel simplifies controls- even my mum could operate it (she's hopeless at all technology)...

The transitions between screens is simple and elegant, like the flash demo found here;

http://www.apple.com/au/ipod/features.html

and the good news is there is no annoying pop-up sub-menus like those found on the zen touch, which speeds up selection dramatically- The navigation is as fast as your thumb can handle, with screens sliding quickly between.

But Unfortunately there is a lot of button bashing on the new ipod, for example; on the Zen touch to get back to the main menu you just pressed "menu", on the ipod you need to press "menu" several times if you are playing from a playlist or artist screen the menu button acts more as a "back" button... One exception is if you choose "Now Playing" from the main menu, then you only need press "menu" once, but what iff you want to get back to the playlist?

Overall I was not satisfied with the 'clickiness' of the buttons making loud irritating noises, especially when you're constantly clicking between menu's to get to the page you want.

Extras (firmware)

iPod has a mass of extra goodies other players just dont have, checkout http://www.apple.com/ipod/features.html, its a fairly accurate demo.

Notes- A simple and handy feature, allows you to read simple TXT files...dont get excited just text NO word files with graphics or anything will work.

Screen Lock- Handy for keeping out prying eyes, an elegant style of onscreen combination lock well implemented with clickwheel.

Alarm- I use this to wake me up every morning, fantastic! plays my favourite playlist at the start of each day.

Contacts and calender- Good If you have iCal (mac only) but for Windows it means using outlook which is extremely cr@p...there are probably some freeware out there thats does the job though.

Games-There are only four games; Solitare, Brick (ping pong style game), Parachute (shoot down parachuters- think space invaders, sort of) and then music quiz.

These games grow boring very quick...no surprise. Music quiz is creative- it plays a song and you need to guess the title of the song before the timer runs out- but If you're like me, then you already know every song on your ipod.

Photos

Already got a whole heap of photos organised into folders on your pc? use iPhoto? use Adobe photo album?

No problem! iTunes is no iPhoto but it does allow you to sync and organise all photos of a selected folder or album onto your iPod 5G.

I dont use iPhoto or Adobe photo album, So i'll just comment on syncing photos from explorer folders-

There is a couple of set backs, first of all iTunes only allows you to select only one folder to sync to the iPod(lets call it levi's photo album).

In "Levi's photo Album" there are all subfolders, these subfolders become the "playlists" of the photo section on the iPod, but If I have loose photos not in sub-folders these will only show up in the entire photo library, making them hard to find amongst all your other photos which are sorted.

Also, If I have a subfolder in "Levi's photo album" called "Christmas" and then other sub-sub-folders called "Xmas tree" or "Party" within "Christmas" these will not show up, the photos will be in "Christmas" but not in the sub-sub folders.

-hope that made sense .

For more info about how photos are synced go to this useful article; http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/ar...photo-pictures/

Videos

Video's look fantastic on the screen, and still look reasonable on a normal tv screen.

However playing videos drain batteries fast, so dont expect to put on DVDs or anything like that- stick to the odd music clip here and there, or video podcast...thats what it was intended for...or get the carlton draught big add; www.bigad.com.au/ -hilarious video clip...

iTunes can only sync videos to the iPod that have been made into the right format first, you'll need Quicktime or some other 3rd party software.

On my 2.4GHZ 512MB WinXP machine, exporting into iPod format was EXTREMELY slow, and I was only doing short video clips.

Overall I'm happy with video- knowing it was going to be limited.

Software

iTunes is easy as, but no surprise it wont work with windows media player, winamp or real player without getting a plugin first (some may not even have plugins).

If you haven't used the simplicity of iTunes yet then get it! http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

But there are plenty of great 3rd party appz if you are not pleased with iTunes.

But If you don't like iTunes, then you're going to be missing out on a lot of what iPod has to offer...iTunes simplifies things a million.

Overall-

Fantastic player- with good bells and whistles, video function is limited and software is a bit lacking for pc when it comes to video, photo and calender syncing. Interface is great, music quality divine, but a little too much button bashing.

Go get it, it'll make you happy, its as good as you'll get, don't forget to buy a case first.

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I too also bought a 5G ipod recently and would like to add some of my own comments.

I found that the clickwheel can actually be used with the neoprene case on as long as you know which side each of the buttons are on you don't really need to have it uncovered- so no real need to cut out a hole for it. I am holding out for an iskin- I had one for my 3G and was a very happy camper.

In response to video- I have found that using this feature is extremly finiky. Some videos I had imported crashed my ipod and it is confusing trying to get a handle on the maximum resolution (or more accurately maximum macroblock) that the ipod can handle. Converting video was fast on my machine using both Nero Recode and Videora ipod Converter but I havent figured out how to preserve 16:9 AR without inserting black bars that almost halve my allowed macroblocks (but I haven't really tried that hard). I find the low screen res a bit of a let down and I get significant colour banding and motion blur in some of my videos.

Having said all this about video I still do not think that Apple has done that bad a job with the 5G ipod. lets face it you don't buy an ipod for movies or television, you buy it for music, and the ipod performs great in this instance. I also like the support for H264 which already has several implementations (including a OSS alternative).

I think that I also must mention the problems that I have been having with itunes and mplugin while syncing my 5G ipod. You can read about it in this thread http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread....&highlight=ipod but in short I have temporarily given up using mplugin so I can connect my ipod without itunes crashing.

Overall I am satisfied with my upgrade, even if only for the extra 10gb of space accompanied by the significant reduction in thickness. I would say to anyone thinking of buying one- Go right ahead... you won't regret it.

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All kinds of skins are available on eBay for the 5th gen iPod. They usually do come with screen protectors which cover not only the screen, but pretty much the entire front of the unit. There's a seperate cut-out protector for the click wheel and the back of the unit.

I have a translucent white skin and a black one for my 30 GB video.

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hi banks, could you possibly post a screenshot of your ipod? I recently purchased a g5 and was looking for a cover on ebay as well. Didn't really know which ones were good.

#341155

hi banks, could you possibly post a screenshot of your ipod? I recently purchased a g5 and was looking for a cover on ebay as well. Didn't really know which ones were good.

The iSkin skin is great for the iPod. I have one for my 4G iPod (eVo2) and it's simply great. For the 5G there's the eVo3 iSkin.

http://www.iskin.com/eVo3gallery/features.html

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The iSkin skin is great for the iPod. I have one for my 4G iPod (eVo2) and it's simply great. For the 5G there's the eVo3 iSkin.

http://www.iskin.com/eVo3gallery/features.html

I was on the mailing list for the relese of this skin- unfortunately there is not a reseller in my city (Sydney) yet.

May have to buy it online and pay for shipping.

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I found that the clickwheel can actually be used with the neoprene case on as long as you know which side each of the buttons are on you don't really need to have it uncovered

-Click wheel is usable, but its pretty hard to scroll thru songs- especially without screen visible- but for scanning or going to next/previous song or play/pause its good...

In response to video- I have found that using this feature is extremly finiky. Some videos I had imported crashed my ipod and it is confusing trying to get a handle on the maximum resolution (or more accurately maximum macroblock) that the ipod can handle. Converting video was fast on my machine using both Nero Recode and Videora ipod Converter

- I use Quiktime Pro and have had no probs whatsoever with incompatibility- stick to apple, your pocket will hurt, but it'll work...or u could get quicktime 4 free...

I have been having with itunes and mplugin while syncing my 5G ipod. You can read about it in this thread

- I have no probs with itunes and mplugin- I use the latest on a winXP SP2 pentium 4 system

thanx for your contribution tho- it clarifies some stuff.

#341180

I am getting an iPod 5G 30GB White for Christmas. It's handy to know some of that information.

I am considering getting an iSkin eVo 3 for my iPod, but it looks like they make your iPod Really chunky/fat. Althouhg I'm also thinking of just getting clear stick-on protecting film for it.

May I also add that i have heard that the case the new iPods come with scratches the back of your iPod - a lot.

~Wuzzie

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I am getting an iPod 5G 30GB White for Christmas. It's handy to know some of that information.

I am considering getting an iSkin eVo 3 for my iPod, but it looks like they make your iPod Really chunky/fat. Althouhg I'm also thinking of just getting clear stick-on protecting film for it.

May I also add that i have heard that the case the new iPods come with scratches the back of your iPod - a lot.

~Wuzzie

true...slipping in and out of neo-prene case does scratch...

get the case before- it marks very quickly even under good care. I agree iskin is chunky and ugly to me...clear film is good idea- not sure about air bubles getting underneath it though...

looks like u'll have a merry xmas ;)

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All said and done, by far from what I heard from many of 5G users that it is a good product and having used apple products I'm sure it is...... but here are some reason's why I wouldn't buy 5G iPod (at least for now) !!!

I've 4G Color iPod (sorta next version of iPod Photo), it's 20 GB unit and it offers 15 hours of battery life for music playback. I use iPod for music listening (off course) very very frequently, but the real reason I dumped by previous 3G iPod was battery life and (MOST IMPORTANTLY) for photo feature wherein I can connect my digital cam using photo connector unit to transfer photos (I still haven't bought that 1GB CF card :(). Now is it worth going for iPod video 30 GB which offers rather less battery life compare to one which I have? I don't think so.

iPod's have this OMG-SO-Beautiful look which gets spoiled by scratches over the time, but from what I've heard by many iPod 5G's are most prone to scratches. I had used by 3G for pretty long time before finally buying case for it, yet it wasn't in that bad shape till that time. One of the main reason why I got good buyback deal on it... cause it looked really well maintained. (trust me, hasn't it been for apple, I would used it as rough as my cellphones... two of which I had banged on wall crashed out of anger fit..lol)

If I buy iPod 5G, it would for only one reason.... it's Audio Quality, according to audiophiles around it has eliminated audio related bugs (from normal users they are not even noticable) and it gives best output compared to all previous iPods. But till apple comes with next revision of 5G iPod (or even 6G, I don't care much whatever they name it) which provides better battery life out of the box, I would rather keep my money safe for that.

Please understand that these are my views and by no way I'm trying to discourage anyone from buying 5G iPods. My point is that if you are new to iPod or you have ample money or hobby to buy every iPod released, 5G iPod is worth it... seriously you won't regret. BUT..... if you own 4G color or photo iPod and you DO CARE about battery life my advice would be stick to what you got till you get something better from apple's stable.

#341312

Thats true...I should have mentioned more about battery life-

First of all battery life is very limited when playing videos, and a little shorter than previous ipod when playing music. If you want to take your iPod on a trip you'll want to take some iCell's (additional battery add on) or a laptop to recharge your

Second of all, no AC adapter is included, charging is done via USB which is neat but a little slower.

#341536

hi banks, could you possibly post a screenshot of your ipod? I recently purchased a g5 and was looking for a cover on ebay as well. Didn't really know which ones were good.

Hey there.....sorry for my delayed response.

The screeny's are of my white translucent skin and my black one, plus the ipod face protector and back. Damn air bubbles -_-

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#341856

i feel sorry for you...I figured air bubbles might be a problem with the film stuff- otherwise it looked like a great idea...

btw thats a nano isnt it?...just looks elongated...but then again if I compare it to your hand it looks like a normal ipod...but I dont mind- film is offered for both products ipods...just wondering.

#341865

lol, its a 30GB video

And actually, the air bubbles wern't there.....I just had to take off the film because i was getting the iPod replaced. So when i put it back on the new one, some dust got on the film and iPod itself, and let me tell yah. Its a pain in the ass tryna get dust off. Plus, it seems as if the click wheel is a little bigger with this iPod....cause the last one there was no air bubbles there what-so-ever.

So its still a pretty good idea, i dont really mind about the air-bubbles just as long as its NOT in the screen area. Plus the case is going on it anyway. It looks kinda blah....but not too blah or anything with my white translucent case because you can see the air bubble around the click-wheel a little, but not my Black one. :D

Also, the silicone skin and screen protectors are available for the nano's, and 60 GB video

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