[request] Konfabulator-like idea...

Not a request just idea.

Is it possible to make AveDesk compatible with Konfabulator widgets?

Maybe we can talk to Konfab team and they can "share" a method? ;)

Or give us something like or Konfabulator widget that can hadle real Konfabulator widget within AD... Like SysStat do...

Uhm... it hard to describe what i want... Hope you understand.

#259622

no i dont think it can be possible

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konfabulator = payware

avedesk = freeware

#259626

This has been requested before and is a good idea, but for reasons of copyright it's probably not possible.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Edit : ^^ icexswipe got there before me :lol:

#259627

Not a request just idea.

Is it possible to make AveDesk compatible with Konfabulator widgets?

Maybe we can talk to Konfab team and they can "share" a method? ;)

Or give us something like or Konfabulator widget that can hadle real Konfabulator widget within AD... Like SysStat do...

Uhm... it hard to describe what i want... Hope you understand.

The konfabulator team would never allow that, because then everyone would just switch to AveDesk and they would be loosing money... and anyways, from what i know avedesk and konfabulator use completly different systems...

#259671

I think no

#259680

The konfabulator team would never allow that, because then everyone would just switch to AveDesk and they would be loosing money... and anyways, from what i know avedesk and konfabulator use completly different systems...

systems? what systems? OSX and Win32? ;) or widget development method?

If second - yes they different but an idea was to combine both :)

And if somebody code a desklet/module for AD that can handle K-widgets it will be copyright violation?

#259682

systems? what systems? OSX and Win32? ;) or widget development method?

If second - yes they different but an idea was to combine both :)

And if somebody code a desklet/module for AD that can handle K-widgets it will be copyright violation?

no i mean widgets and desklets are bulit completly differently.. like the widgets are just an xml file and some images, while desktlets are made some other way... wouldnt know cause i never made dekslets...

#259693

ugh

since you pple know jack about what you`re talking, let me enlighten you.

Konfab uses javascript for it`s widgets (majority of them). AveDesk could be adjusted to run them but it never will.

Why?

Cause K widgets are copyrighted and cannot be used (in that form) on other (widget) platforms.

Ports are possible however.

The end (unless Ave and herd wanna slap me) :P

#259779

ugh

since you pple know jack about what you`re talking, let me enlighten you.

Konfab uses javascript for it`s widgets (majority of them). AveDesk could be adjusted to run them but it never will.

Why?

Cause K widgets are copyrighted and cannot be used (in that form) on other (widget) platforms.

Ports are possible however.

The end (unless Ave and herd wanna slap me) :P

Konfab uses javascript and can use any other scripts or event exe files. I know. And it have builin command-line interpreter (*nix like. check dev manual :P)

About widgets... IMO they not copyrighted but Konfab idea is. Thats why i told about talk to K-team... :cool:

PS

@Unbeliever: why you have "banned" sublabel :confused:

#260008

PS

@Unbeliever: why you have "banned" sublabel :confused:

It`s a lil game i like to play :P

#260010

umm...

i have to think about my sublabel ;)

#260011

NilColor, u'r reading my mind. I'm now workin on a 'K-let' - kinda mini-Konfab, which loads a widget and powers it to be a desklet. Not all the K-features will be supported, but I hope it'll work fine. That's why I need a AVeDesk SDK 1.2 BADLY

#270014

Isnt avedesk 1.2 out? :confused:

#270016

Sir, I think you haven't had your cup of coffee today. Im talking of SDK.

#270023

Sir, i think i was being genuinely curious, i havent use a windows pc in more than a year. You can have my cup since you never mentioned SDK :eyeroll:

#270030

NilColor, u'r reading my mind. I'm now workin on a 'K-let' - kinda mini-Konfab, which loads a widget and powers it to be a desklet. Not all the K-features will be supported, but I hope it'll work fine. That's why I need a AVeDesk SDK 1.2 BADLY

For starters, you can use the 1.1 SDK from this thread.This SDK is still compatible to AveDesk 1.2.

SDK additions with 1.2 are only a few functions and handlers and will come available soon, you can integrate and benefit from them later without any problems.

If you really want to make a konfab widget loader desklet for AveDesk, consider using the Mozilla Spidermonkey JScript engine and not the Microsoft ActiveScript implementation of EcmaScript because of their incompatibilities.

Also, the XML configuration of a Konfab widget isn't XML compliant enough to be successfully loaded with the Microsoft XML parser - maybe you can use the Expat or Xerces XML libraries before writing your own, I don't know.

Another problem is that a plethora of widgets use konfabs FreeBSD zsh (z-shell) to issue system commands. No idea yet.

I'd see the following approaches:

1. Write a Konfab to SysStats translator instead - something that dismantles the widget structure and turns it into a SysStats config - the user of your utility could fix the JScript/JavaScript incompatibilities manually. In an ideal world, the weapon of choice would be a XML Stylesheet transition (XSL).

2. Write a set of ActiveX or plain vanilla C++ objects that are modeled after the Konfab object model and attach them to the ActiveScript engine or Spidermonkey. Do the duck and cover drill.

3. Write a desklet that only runs Konfab widgets by calling Konfab with command line arguments and get AveDesk to manage position, labelling and lifetime of actual running Konfab instances. This would avoid legalese skirmish by requiring Konfab installed and licensed.

Just my 2 cents - I thought of doing 2. myself but I saw that paying USD 20 is less hussle than devoting a year of work just to get sued my very pants off my bottom. ;)

#270159

All those FreeBSD zsh is a collection of little .exe files )) i can send them...

And my 2 cents )) - Konfab is good but running AD + K + SysStats... IMO tooooo much ;)

#270167

I'm not going to make a SysStats config. I don't use SysStats at all. K-let will work by itself. Good news: I've found a JavaScript engine that Konfab uses (by the way, it is under MGPL license, so all the project would be opensource).

#270191

oh!!! hot news ))

i'd like to be a beta tester ;)))

#270465

by the way Rimmer

at your "support by visit site" link there an error in link pointed to "Site of Yozh Ecoclub"

it points to "hhtp://www.ecoclub.by.ru". as you can see this link uses "hhtp" protocol and thats why i can't support you this way ;))

#270466

Thank you. I'll fix it soon

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