Aqua-Soft ForumsMSN has released their search engine to the world now (if not completely). Microsoft has a lot of ca$h to backup their enterprises.
Does anybody here think that MSN will be a real challenge to Google's search engine dominanace in the coming year?
MSN set to dominate search engines by next year?
That's a desperate action from MS. Google already gained a massive follower for their services. Just look at Gmail and all the hype it causes. Even Hotmail 'must' give an addition to their capacity to 250 MB. But Gmail is far to nice in their interface. And in search engine war, Personally I believe that Google since they also got lots of money now, will also add new features and capability to their own Search engine
There's nothing new about the new Microsoft search that anyone is going to care about. It's just typical Microsoft arrogance that they think they can throw a bunch of money at something and make it the standard. Jumping into a crowded pool with X-Box was one thing; this is plain stupid. It pisses me off when these out-of-touch corporate executives get together for a couple of meetings to spooge over an idea for some disgustingly lame "feature," like, ooh, let's make it so that people can search for things near them! That will make us beat Google! Give me a break. These are the same geniuses behind Passport, .NET, the Longhorn crap that we've heard of so far, etc., etc. This service won't last a day, and whoever thought to put so much effort into it is going to look like a moron. Rightfully so.
These are the same geniuses behind Passport, .NET, the Longhorn crap that we've heard of so far, etc., etc. This service won't last a day, and whoever thought to put so much effort into it is going to look like a moron. Rightfully so.
Less of that.
Passport = poo.
.NET = good
Longhorn = looking to be good when it comes out.
Congratulations on having a very uninformed post. 
Less of that.
Congratulations on having a very uninformed post.
Um... congratulations on being obnoxiously, undeservedly patronizing? I offered my opinion, as opposed to challenging someone else's opinion without any sort of explanation. If you read your curiously sparse post, you'll see that your entire point is basically just that I'm stupid, which I think is slightly unfair.
Passport was a terrible idea from the start. I think (hope) we can agree on that.
I didn't say anything about .NET other than "they" (at Microsoft) were geniuses. So to criticize my opinion, without even really knowing what it is, is presumptuous and, again, obnoxious of you.
.NET is useful in many senses; bloated and redundant in other senses. That's all I meant.
And there are numerous things about Longhorn that I think are silly--besides the obvious fact that the visual style is distractingly ugly. Feel free to PM me for more specifics; this is not the place. But this is also not the place for you to feel full of yourself and just write, "hah, don't be so stupid--you're wrong, because you're not as informed as I am." You would never be so rude to a person in real life, so feel free to get over yourself on here as well.
Let's see... single sign on a bad idea... No... Passport is a great idea, the implementation left something to be desired, but it's still a great idea.Passport was a terrible idea from the start. I think (hope) we can agree on that.
Which visual style are you refering too? There are 3 and I think Slate is not too bad. Just my opinion. Jade is fugly.And there are numerous things about Longhorn that I think are silly--besides the obvious fact that the visual style is distractingly ugly.
Back to the topic... Google is starting to suck just like the rest of the search engines. I don't want results of other search engines in my searches... that's just stupid.
Google is so full of ads and bogusly ranked results that I can't stand using them unless I have too.
If M$ can do it, whether it's better or differently, more power too them.
Edit: No comment on .NET from me... jury's still out on that.
Google's still working fine for me...
You can't blast Microsoft for giving the search engine business a try. What's important is how good the actual search engine is.
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So far, Google's results have been far better and faster than the beta.search.msn thing, which I started trying concurrently with Google yesterday whenever I searched. Google always gave me the answer faster. And the ranking isn't crap-- their ranking system is why I like them so much. That, and the fast, clean, pleasing interface-- especially GMail.
Yeah totally agree. It'll take a lot to make me switch from Google. It's just like second nature now. Whenever I wanna search for something, I type google.ca without even thinking.
Really? Why is it, then, that most large enterprise organisations strive to attain the zen that is "single sign on" (one username and password for all systems in the company)? Passport is, to paraphrase Apple, single sign on for the rest of us.Passport was a terrible idea from the start. I think (hope) we can agree on that.
By the same token, one might say that C is useful in many senses, yet bloated and redundant in others. Who needs to write int i = j +1 when I can just write it in machine code?!?.NET is useful in many senses; bloated and redundant in other senses. That's all I meant.
Then you obviously haven't looked very deeply. I challenge you to argue against the usefullness of the raisons d'étre of Longhorn - WinFS, Avalon, and Indigo - they are implementations of key features (full-content searching, advanced hardware graphics compositing, and distributed web-service-based communications, respectively) that are (or will be) present in all major "next generation" OSes (Tiger, Linux 3?). The visual style is to pander to Joe l'User so that he can see that this isn't Windows XP (and to show off Avalon's capabilities).And there are numerous things about Longhorn that I think are silly--besides the obvious fact that the visual style is distractingly ugly.