Bug Report: iSkin by Judge

Just some things I noticed...

Seems the bar that seperates the Address field and the

browser window looks to be to thin

This seems odd, it has a drop shadow for the bottombar of IE,

and it curves where it joins the rest of the window. It looks

like the top of another window.

I find it wierd when you go to hit one of the window buttons, to close

minimize, maximize, that they all light up with thier symbol, shouldn't

only the one you move over show its symbol, and not all at once?

And I don't even know whats going on here when you do an ALT-TAB switch

I am not critisizing here... just pointing out some odd bits...

still one of the best skins I have seen. This could very well be the difinitive(SP?) Aquaesque WB theme.

P.S. I made a comment else where about having a choice to have aqua grey buttons instead of aquablue... well I installed WB 3.41 and now it seems that

all the buttons are now aqua grey, including the IE toobar buttons, slider bars and the rainbow close/mini/maxi buttons are aqua grey... how odd is that?

#1778

MageGuru:

1) regarding the border - at my place it is just perfect. what version of WB you use?

2) in my opinion its ok, cause thats y the shadows r for, so you can see the differences between other windows. but thats my opinion , i c what your saying in that point.

3) I bless WB for having such an amazing chance to have all buttons light up when just one is being mouse over at. -> exact same thing in the osx. so its not a bug. :D

4) about the "ALT+TAB" switch,......hell i have got NO IDEA how that happens to you.. it looks like a whole mess... - besides, with Object DOCK, who needs that switch?

WELL DONE JUDGE! - you must realize you have made a huge turn in the skinning community. THANK YOU!

#1786

Well just installed WB 3.41, the bottom border still looks the same...

as for ALT-TAB... Force of habit

#1787

I have installed WB 3.5 and that skins EVERYTHING and skins it GOOD.

I could clearly see you have your scroll bars unskinned and very win32 look-alike...

I still dont see any standing out "bugs" in that theme, yet.

i'll post a screenie next time.

thanks for the bug posting MageGuru, i hope the latest version can fix those things for ya (never used previous versions of WB, cause they really made me turn green, well -not anymore).

#1790

i don't know how you got WB 3.5 since my component manager just show me the 3.41 released and 3.49 beta... where did you find the 3.5 version???

#1791

3.49 is the non official release of 3.5

like what was with wfx2, it was 1.91...1.99.

point is, the newest ver of wb, is extremely more efficiant.

take care.

#1795

actually as we speak i found a bug.

but i think thats WB fault and not judge's.

whenever i open control panel/add remove software, it is really ugly unskinned......

damnnit

im still happy

ok i need to go to sleep its freaking 4 am here.

later yall.

GOKU..

#1796

No kidding where did you find WB 3.5???

I just got 3.41 last week.

#1808

wow... seems Goku is enjoyin' WB again, eh?

#1832

About the 3 buttons all lighting up. It is true it is not a bug. I have been adding that to my OSX skins too since that is what OSX does. My BBX mercury doesn't do that though cause it was a OS9 port.

#1939

Originally posted by Goku@Nov 20 2002, 12:09 PM

whenever i open control panel/add remove software, it is really ugly unskinned......

* hrrm!! *

#1960

Nah its 3.41 Enhanced... and on XP

Having stardard scrollbars, that was on me... and not something I pointed out.

Goku brought that up...looking at my picks...

I have since enabled them...

This is what IE currently looks like. And I did no color changes.

as for ALT-TAB, other WB themes seem to be ok...

ie: QTY-R's skin looks fine on alt-tab

#2076

Well doing a bit of exploring...

seems the ALT-TAB is grabbing the "StartPanelTop.bmp"

image to skin itself...

hope that helps.

Side note: I can never seem to get WB to use its Background Bitmaps...

all my explorer backgrounds are always white.

#2144

ahhhhh, i have been asking for a graphite theme forever in windowblinds. Do you know how you got it to work. I would love the aqua, not brushed in a graphite theme...erggggg how did you do it?????

#2151

OK, I found out how it came out grey for buttons...

In the very place you just described, there is a gamma button...

and in its dialog there is a check box for "Grey Scale colors in skin".

Somehow this option got checked. (Enable Coloring does not have to be checked for this to work either thats why I didn't notice it.) Uncheck it and the buttons go back to aqua blue and rainbow.

Don't know how it got checked though

As Far as the Backgrounds I am talking about, I am refering

to the Background in say Explorer, the part of the window that shows the directory tree on the left, and the files/folders on the right.

I have Dialog and Explorer Backgrounds checked as well as the Background Override in Backgrounds with specified textures, checked. But the backgrounds still show white. Its also not specific to this skin; it happens in others as well.

#2155

Yes, the three button light up is what the real thing does, it is not a bug. So I am glad to see it was implemented. But there are a couple of things I am having some trouble with. Look here.

1. I know the scrollbar is not skinned, I do not have the full version

2. Ignore the folders and view buttons, I just have to restart my comp to restore the icons

3. Why is the title not in the center.

4. Why are there big ugly blue buttons when I roll over the buttons, these should not be here. They are too gummy looking for aqua os x.

5. The real thing has no roll over effect, and when you click on the button it merely darkens its color tone. THATS IT!

6. Are you sure those close minimize and maximize sound effects are correct? I am inclined to just turn them off. I dont remember hearing any clicks or chunks when using the real thing. Matter of fact, how do you turn them off. I despise those little clicks everytime I close a window!!!

These minor fixes could really make this skin, the perfect os x skin. You have done an excellent job on all other factors. Pay attention to details.

Oh and one more thing.

These aqua buttons on explorer should be much more rounded on the edges, not pointy lemon like tips.

#3903

Hey judge a couple more suggestions. Again you dont have to take my advice but I think it would make your skins even better than they already are. By the way I just tried to edit your skin using skinstudio and I did not accomplish anything. I just dont know how to use that program, so if these changes are to be made, I guess its up to you, or someone else.

1. Do not make the scrollbars transparent when they are being clicked on.

2. More flush border around windows, little thicker on the sides.

3. In the toolbar, do not use lines as seperators, use dotted lines

4. Do not create a 'Help' button in the top right hand corner, there simply is no help button in os x, and I dont think anyone cares if they dont have access to it either

5. Make status bar at bottom striped and flush with the rest of the border.

6. 4 short vertical lines in the right side of the status bar must be dotted, (the ones next to the word internet)

7. One HUGE thing that I mentioned above already would be the title text centered in the titlebar. You have it set between the buttons on either end of the title bar I believe. But this makes them off center to the whole title bar because the green button (last button to the right of the three traffic lights) is closer to the center than the roll-up button. So centered between these two buttons makes the title text slightly off to the right.

Thats about everything. I'm sure I will find a few more minor ones in the future, but for now these are the main ones (as well as above), and boy if they were fixed your skin would be 99.9% perfect.

#4076

Would it be possible for anyone that knows how to use skinstudio, to implement the above changes. I honestly tried myself and I have no idea what I am doing. I tried to undertstand the program but its too complicated for me. If anyone can edit skins in skinstudio I would ask that you please edit this skin and make these changes. It would be an absolute superb skin if someone did this.

#4864

jmitch man you gots some things to learn before you post that. Number one the reason why the border is so thin is because on OSX there is no border, so on the skin he just made it one pixel cause you cant have none.

Also, that is not a help button man. It is the rollup feature and yes, osx has the same button right there, although it acts a little different, the rollup on windowblinds works like os9

#5034

Uhhh, heh. Fellow buddy. You dont seem to know what I am talking about. The help button I am reffering to is the little circle in the top right hand corner on only certain windows it appears. It is NOT the roll-up button, believe me I know what the roll-up buton is. Maybe if you actually used the skin you would know what I am talking about. And one other thing, I know there are no borders on the real os x, but he could try making his a little smaller! And what about all the other stuff I mentioned??

#5420

Ya thanks for the tip judge with the disabling theme sounds. I had actually already found that though, after posting. When I tried using windowblinds it seemed like I had made a change and I save the changes, but then I go and use the skin I changed and it does not appear to be changed. I figured I just wasn't doing it right. I dont know.

True, this is windows, but for the sake of this community I think you should go through whatever possible to make your skin look as macish and mac-like as you can. I realize you cannot do everything on my list, but if there are things you can do, then please do them. This is a community where we dont care about windows. We will sacrifice a lot to get as close to mac as possible. So I say make the changes. As far as the help button goes (the one with the little question mark inside), seriously, come on. You actually use that thing!? It just sits there on those few particular windows that contain it, and looks ugly. Just get rid of the dang thing please! I never used the dang thing once in all my years of using windows! But, if you insist, it is your skin, and you did put all the work into it. But please take my suggestions into considoration.

#5484