Hello,
I got the permission to ported the files to SP2 and to release them. I'm not sure when I will be ready but here is a preview ![]()
Franziose
Hello,
I got the permission to ported the files to SP2 and to release them. I'm not sure when I will be ready but here is a preview ![]()
Franziose
This is a good news but does it come with a installer ?
And if someone can make the traduction from German to English I can make the English to French Traduction.
Yes I think that I will release it with an installer.
I know someone who will perhaps make one.
Looks great
and German files are what i need *g
Keep it going :rock:
Sieht bisher echt cool aus. Ich muss zugeben ich war bisher zu faul meins zu modden *g*
:rock:
Dann kann ich mir auch endlich das SP2 draufspielen. Momentan bleibe ich dann doch bei SP1 mit den alten Files ![]()
If you release them I can install the SP2. Now I prefer SP1 with the old files ![]()
Good. Don't mean to stop your port but I already asked Stefan about universal pack that works on every XP and 2003 for long time ago and he said he was happy with it. You can make it if you want to but I'll release them soon including Danimator's version. ![]()
Will it also include changed dialogs? And will it work for SP2?
For first everything ist ready.
I am just searching a dialog witch has changed place and I had not found by yet ![]()
It speaks 'volumes about the character' of our talented modders/themers/ResHackers...lol, that they work together so that we (collective membership) may enjoy these wonderful sysfiles...
I recall when stefanKa released his SP1 sysfiles (English ver), and I was impressed, and when chatting with Chris (flyakite) had to let him know how nice the 'Dialog edits/mods' were...It really adds a special touch to the overall GUI effect! Chris then added modded 'dialogs' to his sysfiles...
Definately looking forward to these being ported to SP2 in all its completeness, and splender! When MS comes out with its Express SP2 version...I'm there!
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Originally posted by Windows X@Aug 13 2004, 06:34 AMGood. Don't mean to stop your port but I already asked Stefan about universal pack that works on every XP and 2003 for long time ago and he said he was happy with it. You can make it if you want to but I'll release them soon including Danimator's version.
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While the idea of ResPatching is good, it's not perfect. Yes ResPatchers make it possible for you to make the installer compatible with all languages and versions of XP and 2003, it has many limitations.
1)=============
For instance, if you modify a dialog, the modified dialog will be included in the ResPatch and then applied to the users file. Now most are probably thinking that is a good thing, because they will end up having the new resized dialog on their system too. Yes and no. To give you an example of why this is actually a very bad thing, here is a scenario. The following is a sample of the exact code from access.cpl:
201 DIALOG 0, 0, 227, 215
STYLE DS_SETFONT | DS_MODALFRAME | WS_POPUPWINDOW | WS_VISIBLE | WS_CAPTION
CAPTION "Keyboard"
FONT 8, "MS Shell Dlg"
{
GROUPBOX "StickyKeys", -1, 7, 7, 213, 56
Now lets say we resize the dialog to be 250 in length and 250 in heigth, it will now look like:
201 DIALOG 0, 0, 250, 250
Well that's not the problem. Now let's say we resize the groupbox so that it fits better in the new resized dialog. So it'll now be something like:
GROUPBOX "StickyKeys", -1, 7, 7, 236, 104
Here's the problem though. On a non-english version it doesn't say "StickyKeys", it says it in a different language. BUT the ResPatcher doesn't patch only the changed size values, it patches the whole dialog, so the words on a non-english system that say StickyKeys actually get replaced with all the dialog text from the English file.
This means that EVERY dialog that gets changed, when it is respatched on the users system all of the text in the dialogs will change to the text that was in the original english modified file. So basically international users end up with all english text in their dialogs and windows.
2)=============
This relates to the first problem:
There are quite a few differences between XP Pro, XP Home, and the 4 versions of 2003. Not every file in every version is the same. For instance, srrstr.dll (controls system restore) is different on Pro and Home. Some of the dialogs differ and don't have the same controls or options for both versions.
Yet, if a ResPatch is based off of srrstr.dll on a Pro system, and the patch is applied on a system using the Home edition, the dialog now has the controls and options that were in the XP Pro dialog. This can cause conflicts on the system, since the dialog was not intended to have those controls.
3)=============
ResPatching cannot recreate hex-code hacks. Some programs rely on good hex hacks to modify their appearance. For instance as with my files, MSN Messenger relies on some hex changes to modify the color and look of various parts of the program. MSN also relies on a hex change to disable the ads at the bottom of the main contacts window, something not possible otherwise.
taskmgr.exe majorly relies on hex changes. All of the blue grids and spikes seen in the Performance and the Networking tabs are only possibly through the use of a hex hack.
user32.dll in my installer has been modified to PERMANENTLY get rid of the dotted focus lines seen around buttons and tabs when pressing the tab key on the keyboard or the Ctrl or Alt keys when taking screenshots.
uxtheme.dll relies on a hex code change to enable the use of unsigned visual styles.
As you can see there are major limitations to ResPatchers. It can't successfully change many things which are very important to the end-users modified system file experience. So while ResPatching is great and just patching the icons and bitmaps in files, it's not good at patching dialogs on systems in a different language than the original source file or at recreating hex-code hacks.
Just thought I'd let everyone know.
Chris, you have explained this in thorough detail, and I for one really appreciate the info!
I recall that we both chatted about 'hex coding/hacking' some 2 months ago, regarding the MSN Messenger skns...
Very interesting, and glad to see you hopefully back in your 'home town' for a little bit...lol
Definately will catch-up with you my friend on IM...![]()
With the help of StefanKa I found the new and changed dialogs I searched (all new and changed dialogs seem to be in xpsp2res.dll)
The strange thing is that microsoft let the old or changed on in their original files, so if you mod them, it changed nothing. I think if this is realy so with all new & changed dialog it's important for all who ported systemfiles because they can copypaste everything and can't damage something because the changed are only effected when you mod it in xpsp2res.dll.
Hope some understood what I mean ![]()
Franziose
Hi,
Nice work, keep it up, stefankas system files are one of the greatest ones around.
Hope that you get rid of all bugs all make a perfect release ![]()
Cya.
Flyakite :
About your user32.dll, about the dots in the dialogs, im using your system files, and i still have those dots when i delete, tab or do anything else, they dont disapear.
Maybe my file isnt good, what did you change to remove the dots ? i can try on a clean user32.dll.
Thanks.
Bye.
flyakite, those're solved with I and stefanka's agreement to use English dialog for all languages (At least it's better than nothing, just only for modded dialog)
No offense but what is the point of making system files work on international versions of XP if those users are just going to end up with English dialogs? To me that seems to defeat the entire purpose. If people wanted English dialogs they'd buy an English version of XP.
From I part, I also don't see a thense in this. If I had a german version of XP, I want to keep it german.
Other question. I have the xpsp2res.dll file but I don't know how to replace it. I had download the newest replacer, but after rebooting, there is still the old file ![]()
i will be very glad if there's an English version for this.... keep up the good work! ![]()
Originally posted by flyakite@Aug 17 2004, 05:02 PMNo offense but what is the point of making system files work on international versions of XP if those users are just going to end up with English dialogs? To me that seems to defeat the entire purpose. If people wanted English dialogs they'd buy an English version of XP.
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I don't wanna post this but from your post, I have to.
System transforming and resources transforming comparnion from your previous post.
System transforming
1. It'll never work well for multilanguage (All dialog in modded files and possibly conflicts beyond different file build and lang)
2. It also have this problem between XP and Pro. If someone say he/she can make it choose right OS automatically, resources transforming can do too.
3. It's patched already. Just need to be replaced
Otherwise, it's needed to be latest files version and keep updating. That means it will have some problems with Windows Update because they can't use new file with modded even they use batchmod but it won't replace dialog. So author must update it all time.
Resources transforming
1. It will have some dialogs that will be English but the rest for original will be former language with no modification (At least it's better than all English and no file conflict problems)
2. As system transforming
3. Need patcher to help it done so authors must add their patcher to finish transforming
Otherwise, it will not affact to newer files except resources or hex mod are changed so ppl can use it in anytime on any OS. One release will keep till last unless something new is released from MS.
Hope this will make you guys clear about reason why I chose to make this.
Whatever, someone hurry and get this on SP2, I can't bare M$ any longer ![]()
The problem is that I haven't seen Stefan since a few days so that I can't ask him if it is ok if I release a version of his files which isn't completely finished. I have modded all files in expect of the xpsp2res.dll which is not completed for now. But this will take a while that I finished also that and for the moment we are renovating (not sure if that word is correct...) one of our houses so that I haven't the time to search all the missing dialogs ![]()
What I want is release a prefinal, and when I have time I will update the xpsp2res.dll
franziose
Originally posted by franziose@Aug 21 2004, 10:14 AMThe problem is that I haven't seen Stefan since a few days so that I can't ask him if it is ok if I release a version of his files which isn't completely finished. I have modded all files in expect of the xpsp2res.dll which is not completed for now. But this will take a while that I finished also that and for the moment we are renovating (not sure if that word is correct...) one of our houses so that I haven't the time to search all the missing dialogs
What I want is release a prefinal, and when I have time I will update the xpsp2res.dll
franziose
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woohoo coolness
ahhh hurry hurry
im so excited
Dude you there? when is the fix coming man? i can t wait for this, ithis windows dll,cpl's etc.... suck, ,,,stefanka you around man?___come out come out wherever
you are... ![]()
