[preview] Nexplorer 1.9

Hello guys,

I'm happy to announce that a new version of NeXplorer (1.9) will be released in a couple of days.

Here are some preview images and a list of some new features

n19-1.jpg

n19-2.jpg

Bzeitler is changing his skins to work with the new version now.

After some tests and skin update, it will be released this weekend

#175451

Man these new features are too good to be true, I can't wait!

The labels showing in the details mode is exactly what I wanted!

#175452

man, u really take short breaks. what can i say, THANK U!!!!

may i ask if this is will be a release with double buffer active?

#175453

:woot: Looks AwSoMe. You have come very far on this Finder clone vneumann, and i like that you keep on pushing to make this communtiy more happy. Bzeitler, much thanks to you for all your skins you are making for this great program

-Kite ^_^

#175462

Verry cool work man :D Best finder clone ever :) Maybe I can make a few skins

for it sometime ? :)

#175468

Really great work vneumann! (Y)

So, for skins, with this new rendering engine we don't need .png with shadow inside?! (FANTASTIC!)

A little question, have you update also the "compact mode" (rolled state)? :rolleyes:

Thanks again you :rock:!

#175488

Looks like another great release.

QUESTION: will the recycle bin compatibility I asked about in THIS thread be integrated in 1.9?

#175490

Originally posted by carbonfiber@Jun 11 2004, 11:16 AM

sounds great and looks awsome

I agree 100%. I like maximally this product. One little suggestio, till this version is not ready. Can you add some key shortcuts (like Ctrl+W or Alt+W for closing the window)?

I also hope in small bugs fixin:

Drag&dropping an item on a folder con inside the window get the dialog "some window".

#175502

Originally posted by carbonfiber@Jun 11 2004, 11:16 AM

sounds great and looks awsome

I agree 100%. I like maximally this product. One little suggestion, till this version is not ready. Can you add some key shortcuts (like Ctrl+W or Alt+W for closing the window)?

I also hope in small bugs fixin:

Drag&dropping an item on a folder con inside the window get the dialog "some window".

Items found on 'search' dissappear after a click or setting properties for example.

Hope in the good developping of this greatter application

I have Panther in PearPC, if you need, I can give you screenshots

Cordially

Unfortunately, cannot remove the previous incomplete post

#175503

Man, thats awsome :D.. are you using pearpc to get the finer aspects of this finder :P?

#175509

Originally posted by XanthraX@Jun 11 2004, 11:55 AM

I also hope in small bugs fixin:

Drag&dropping an item on a folder con inside the window get the dialog "some window".

At least for me, this one was fixed on the latest version.

VNewman... A-M-A-Z-I-N-G job... the eject button was simple... wow... woooooow... too sexy everything else... i hope that when some big software industry (if you want to work with programing in the future) contratcs you for a big monthly income... you don´t forget us. :):lol:

#175515

looks really good. Really a good job !

I have just a sugestion, if you need more ideas for next versions : could the real drag and drop be implemented ? In OS X, when you drag a file on a folder and wait a bit, the folder open automaticaly, then you can drop the file on a folder inside the initial folder.

This would be awesome.

#175520

cool :D but is the "run in" bug corrected , beaucause it runs the programs in the nexplorer folder ?

#175525

Yeahhhh, Amazing, even if i got stuck with the 1.85 version cuz the newest act to weird to me.

Question....

Will it have double buffer ? ... think it is quite better .... if it is so...

and Will it have this effect ---> when you use the search box. don`t know just put a word in there , ok, it search what you want, but when you click on the Cancel icon, "the X in the search box`s corner" it must show you the last window you were watching at before search anythinig. instead of this it only shows you, a blank window....

i don`t like that

i really like your app, dude, keep it real ! man ! :rock:

#175560

This is an amazing program! Ever since I was selected to be a beta tester, I've been following the app closely. The updates look really cool, especially the CD eject icon! Will this version remember view settings?

I can't wait until the new version! How was your (seemingly short) breaK?

-nightcrawler1089

#175566

Thank you all for your kind comments.

The new version is coming along well without major bugs .

There are a few small bugs(mostly in appearance) that may be or may not be corrected before release

I will try to implement the features you requested but please understand I can't suddenly make it 100% clone of a panther finder. Please don't think that your request is intentionally ignored. After all, NeXplorer is slowly evolving and hopefully would be very close to a real finder before apple releases a new version of OSX

I just completely gave up support for windows 2000 and below because the advantage I get with common controls version 6 is too much to discard ( especially the look of controls . Sorry w2k users)

Double buffering is back on because I gave up w2k support.

About the recycle bin dock problem, I need help from docklet developers. I just want to know which function OD or Yz Dock calls (or what kind of message is sent) when the recycle bin is double-clicked.

BTW, the eject button on shortcut panel is not just eye candy. It really works ( but doesn't remove the CD drive from the shortcut pane as the real finder does)

Shadow rendering engine is kinda experimental. I made up my own shadow rendering routine so it may not look perfect. In the next release you may be able to change the depth and angle of the shadow ( or even color )

cool  but is the "run in" bug corrected , beaucause it runs the programs in the nexplorer folder ?

It was fixed in the minor update version I release with panther style alt-tab but I guess not many people noticed it so sure it's fixed. Every program runs in its own directory now.

Thanks again for your interest

#175645

About the recycle bin dock problem, I need help from docklet developers. I just want to know which function OD or Yz Dock calls (or what kind of message is sent) when the recycle bin is double-clicked.

I am doing it this way:

#define RECYCLEBIN_GUID	_T("::{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}")

SHELLEXECUTEINFO sei = {0};
sei.cbSize = sizeof(sei);
sei.hwnd = NULL; // no parent
sei.lpVerb = NULL;
sei.lpFile = RECYCLEBIN_GUID;
sei.lpParameters = ""; // no params
sei.lpDirectory = ""; // no inital dir
sei.nShow = SW_SHOWNORMAL;
ShellExecuteEx(&sei);

Shadow rendering engine is kinda experimental. I made up my own shadow rendering routine so it may not look perfect. In the next release you may be able to change the depth and angle of the shadow ( or even color )

That's WOA! cool. If you want, I have some gaussian blur code here.

#175650

Originally posted by AndreasV@Jun 11 2004, 07:29 PM-->
QUOTE(AndreasV @ Jun 11 2004, 07:29 PM)
I am doing it this way:

#define RECYCLEBIN_GUID	_T("::{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}")	SHELLEXECUTEINFO sei = {0};	sei.cbSize = sizeof(sei);	sei.hwnd = NULL; // no parent	sei.lpVerb = NULL;	sei.lpFile = RECYCLEBIN_GUID;	sei.lpParameters = ""; // no params	sei.lpDirectory = ""; // no inital dir	sei.nShow = SW_SHOWNORMAL;	ShellExecuteEx(&sei);<!--QuoteEBegin
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That's WOA! cool. If you want, I have some gaussian blur code here.

Thanks AV. You're da MAN !

What I really need to do is to hook messages for recycle bin docklet in OD or YzDock.

The problem is when a user set Nexplore as the default file browser, Nexplorer doesn't recognize double-click on recycle bin docklets .

Does the gaussan blur routine include alpha too? I 've seen some blur routines but most of them didn't support alpha channel.

#175656

Originally posted by Hybrid Rainbow@Jun 11 2004, 07:37 PM

Man... that s***t looks AWESOME!!!!!! I'm so happylicious :rolleyes:

My compliments to the chef :lol:

Well, it is your color labels that contributed a lot to the look :)

I THANK YOU for the beautiful labels.

#175660

Does the gaussan blur routine include alpha too? I 've seen some blur routines but most of them didn't support alpha channel.

Yeah it does :D It was a hell of a work to support32 bits, but it does :rock:

#175661

Originally posted by Heinzoliger@Jun 11 2004, 08:37 AM

looks really good. Really a good job !

I have just a sugestion, if you need more ideas for next versions : could the real drag and drop be implemented ? In OS X, when you drag a file on a folder and wait a bit, the folder open automaticaly, then you can drop the file on a folder inside the initial folder.

This would be awesome.

Just an FYI -- that feature is called "spring-loaded folders"

#175668

I have get some complaint why my skin is not that and that like real Mac OS X in Mac OS X theme thread.

So because i have get complaint that not depends from me i want than new version is atleast these attribute:

1) Two shadow mode. That can make when you add ***_unactive.png to all frameskin png's (right_bottom.png, right_middle_collapsed.png, right_middle.png, right_top.png etc.). So i can make like these (i have already make that PSD files) below:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/website/desktop/NeXpl...nd_UnActive.tif

2) Make to collapsed mode possible skin also top skin (in real OSX that is white)(i have already make that PSD files)

3) Make 2 new skin part to Bottom (i want bottom_right.png and bottom_left), so i can make better skin/shadow. This need atleast in collapsed mode so i can make perfect shadow to collapsed mode (that problem i have say better in this post).

Here is architecture in text format where that two new part should come:

l left_bottom.png l bottom_left.png l bottom.png l bottom_right.png l right_bottom.png l

4) make to all button unactive mode (like back_unactive etc.) so i can make more perfect skin.(i have already make that PSD files)

5) make much more realistic shortcut panel.

It should make like these example

http://koti.mbnet.fi/website/desktop/NeXpl...arator_area.tif

a ) Make new separator to top (4pixel height) like below

http://koti.mbnet.fi/website/desktop/NeXpl...height_4pix.tif

b ) Change your default separator like below. Height is 9 pixel and gray line space is 3pix from edge.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/website/desktop/NeXpl...orter_space.tif

c ) Change your default shortcut area like below. Height is 34pix and icon space is 4pix from edge

http://koti.mbnet.fi/website/desktop/NeXpl..._space_4pix.tif

PS#1. Your shadow still not look like real. please make shadow like 1) point so i can make perfect skin/shadow. Or at least make option that i make own real shadow like i say in 1) point.

PS#2. Your label still not look like real.

PS#3. Sorry because i have not time make better sample, but i think that you know where that 2 new part come in skin. I go right now to my friend to all weekend.

#175674

Originally posted by am_tiainen@Jun 11 2004, 07:59 PM

I have get some complaint why my skin is not that and that like real Mac OS X in Mac OS X theme thread.

So because i have get complaint that not depends from me i want than new version is atleast these attribute:

Man, I respect your drive for perfection.

BUT I want you to understand I am doing this project solely for fun of coding.

In that regard, implementing a completely new feature can be fun because it is intellectually challenging but tweaking lines over and over for perfect look is not much of fun .

If programming Nexplorer were all I do and I got paid for it, I would try real hard to make it perfect and more stable. But I have other aspects of life than this.

I hope you understand this and I will try to implement your request if it is simple programming-wise.

#175685

This is kind of important.... Vnuemman said he was going to take a break and he did however short it was. He has been working to implement several new features which we will be lucky to have. He announces that his plans and within minutes he has probably 10 requests for things that he should add. I know that everone is trying to help him make it more realistic but imagine how you would feel if you worked really really really hard on something, announce it to people and they say that looks good but can your please add............

He has said it before that he does not wish to have any more feature requests. He has access to osx and therefore can add features at his own pace. I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and then go look here

and remember just how far this project has come. I know that we all want the perfect finder clone, but all the feature requests really dont help.

This is not flame bait, it is not directed at anyone, I am merely stating that when this new version is released, please just say thanks, use nexplorer, enjoy it and relax. I would hate to see vnuemman take another vacation...

In the meantime keep browsing and wait for the new nexploerer :D

#175715

Thank you for that bzeitler. I noticed right away all the "can you please" requests befor this new version was even released, and I thought that he would decide to pull the app from development completely.

THANK YOU VNUEMMAN "FINDER CLONE MAKING GOD"!

#175726