[ann] I Have Been Offended

Okay..I have made a site with my friend iFido, the site isn't supposed to be released yet!

But cause of this I have no choice...

I recived a PM from Flow this is it...HERE

Then He pm'ed me again...this time he said THIS

I am WELL aware that he is pissed because he THINKS that I copied it, WELL I DID NOT!

I am not expecting a apploigy from Flow I just want him to stop buggin me with those pm's if I did not copy anything. I understand why he's made. But he should've never ACCUSED me of "Stealling" his text. I've never been to that site BEFORE!!! I never knew that even was around! If I did then I would never have wrote my own explainnation on tagging! I would've asked him if I could link to his site so I could save time!

I never ever stold anywork form anyone in my life! Nor am I ever planing to!

I wrote THIS explaination myself bassed on COMMON KNOWLEDGE form my experience in posting on other forums! I did not steal ANY text at ALL!! If he is so worried then he should copyright that page! BUT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't Invision Power Board the first to use "Tagging" ?

Well I want the community to know what just happended. Here are the links again.

Please jugde carefully on this.

Jesus Franco's Explanation

Flow's Explanation

If I copied it word for word like you said then why IS IT DIFFERENT ?!?!?!?! :blink:

Well, If what I wrote is copying then how was I supposed to explain it? If were both talking about the same thing!!!

sheeesh, I think by me posting this here I am trying to handle this in the most professional maner possible! I do not want to get kicked out these boards becuase of something I did not do...

#175333

is the lovely flow our good buddy and ultra pain in the butt "Lou"?

#175335

Er, yeah, I don't really get what his problem in. It's not like it even looks like you paraphrased what he said, since your stuff is in a different order and there are some things that each list don't share. And he's spazzing out over 5 lines? That's pretty lame. Especially when what he wrote isn't exactly rocket science, and it's not like he owns the concept of tags. So Flow confuses me quite a bit here.

#175336

Originally posted by pst9er@Jun 10 2004, 11:36 PM
Er, yeah, I don't really get what his problem in. It's not like it even looks like you paraphrased what he said, since your stuff is in a different order and there are some things that each list don't share. And he's spazzing out over 5 lines? That's pretty lame. Especially when what he wrote isn't exactly rocket science, and it's not like he owns the concept of tags. So Flow confuses me quite a bit here.

My point EXACTLY <_<

#175337

Originally posted by ibanezcollector@Jun 10 2004, 06:34 PM
is the lovely flow our good buddy and ultra pain in the butt "Lou"?

I didn't know of this. Flow, you shouldn't be like that to him, he didn't steal it. He is simply using the idea on his forums like we are here at A-S. The text you wrote at louiemantia.com is for A-S (unofficially for now). He didn't steal it. Therefore, yes, I think you are over-reacting Flow. Babypapichulo, I see exactly where you are coming from, and you have the right to feel offended.

I also don't think this should be in General Discussion but in Site/Forum Issues, but I could be wrong.

// Lou

#175338

I am flow. IT'S A GOOD THING YOU KNOW HOW TO EDIT YOUR POSTS.

#175341

Oh, and:

sheeesh, I think by me posting this here I am trying to handle this in the most professional maner possible! I do not want to get kicked out these boards becuase of something I did not do...

Replying to your PM might have been a little more professional.

Edit: and that second PM was sent because as soon as I hit "Send Message" on the first one your forum decided to stop responding. Naturally I thought that the message was not sent (as they don't show up in the Sent Messages folder by default).

#175343

Originally posted by Globox@Jun 10 2004, 06:51 PM
I am flow. IT'S A GOOD THING YOU KNOW HOW TO EDIT YOUR POSTS.

unimpressed by you glowbox

your just as bad.. always trying to start trouble..

and ill leave this unedited just for you..

#175346

Originally posted by ibanezcollector@Jun 10 2004, 05:01 PM
unimpressed by you glowbox
your just as bad.. always trying to start trouble..
and ill leave this unedited just for you..

1.) I'm not attempting to impress anyone. If you're unimpressed by me, who cares?

2.) Just as bad? I'm sorry, but I don't steal things. Always trying to start trouble? By asking where someone got permission? By asking someone to remove stolen property from their site? If that's starting trouble it looks like you're just going to have to put up with it.

3.) Do you actually think I change entire gysts of posts by my editing of them? Whenever I edit posts I add things....

Edit: I'm also glad to see my ultimate goal was reached.

#175348

Originally posted by Globox@Jun 10 2004, 07:07 PM
1.) I'm not attempting to impress anyone. If you're unimpressed by me, who cares?
2.) Just as bad? I'm sorry, but I don't steal things. Always trying to start trouble? By asking where someone got permission? By asking someone to remove stolen property from their site? If that's starting trouble it looks like you're just going to have to put up with it.
3.) Do you actually think I change entire gysts of posts by my editing of them? Whenever I edit posts I add things....

how is what he did stealing?

please explain so I can prove you wrong again..

He is using tags which were around way before you did the tag compliance thing for aqua soft..

Unless you own the copyright to those said tags and ideas he didnt steal a thing..

So show us your proof you are the original designer of the tags idea or shut up

PLAIN AND SIMPLE

#175349

Originally posted by ibanezcollector@Jun 11 2004, 12:13 AM
how is what he did stealing?
please explain so I can prove you wrong again..
He is using tags which were around way before you did the tag compliance thing for aqua soft..
Unless you own the copyright to those said tags and ideas he didnt steal a thing..
So show us your proof you are the original designer of the tags idea or shut up
PLAIN AND SIMPLE

YES!!!!!!!! :rant:

I am VERY disgusted by your actions GlowBox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And guess what! Report me to Aqua-Soft !!

I am confident that nothing will happen to me!

And if it does I still won't remove my tagging instructions!! :6

DAMN IT!!

#175350

Originally posted by ibanezcollector@Jun 10 2004, 05:13 PM
how is what he did stealing?

I'll break it down since you don't seem to get what he did.

He went to the Tag page on Lou's site.

He Selected all the tags text

He pressed CTRL+C

He went to his site

He his "add reply" in the "Rules" topic

He hit CTRL+V

He hit "Add Reply"

*some time goes by, then he get's my PM... both of them*

He goes to his post

He hits "Edit"

He mixes things up, removed things, everythings lookin' good now

He comes here and claims wrong has been done to him

please explain so I can prove you wrong again..

Why is it that whenever you think you're being a genius and proving me wrong that there is absolutely nothing to prove? HE EDITED IS POST. DO YOU GET THAT? Point out a time that you have proven me wrong?

Edit: I don't claim to own the concept of tagging. You saying I do really just shows how little you grasp this situation. I do, however, claim to own the entirety of the text AND images on Lou's TAG page - I MADE IT, I OWN IT.

#175351

Originally posted by Globox@Jun 10 2004, 07:18 PM
Why is it that whenever you think you're being a genius and proving me wrong that there is absolutely nothing to prove? HE EDITED IS POST. DO YOU GET THAT? Point out a time that you have proven me wrong?

how about when you bashed me for stealing a 3d model, we got into a huge debate, and you were wrong

thats one time

#175352

Originally posted by ibanezcollector@Jun 10 2004, 05:20 PM
how about when you bashed me for stealing a 3d model, we got into a huge debate, and you were wrong
thats one time

I didn't bash you for stealing a 3D model. I suggest you go and actually read all of the posts with an open and unbiased mind - hopefully you'll understand then. I ASKED if you had permission to USE it (often that is the wisest coarse of action when using SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK). You then chose to result to childish name calling and to indulge in "holy wrath" without ever actually adressing the issue. I then found, by myself I'll add, that you did indeed have permission to use it! How's that for some detective work? All you had to do was read a little and post the part which gave you permission. Can you guess what would have happened then?

#175353

Originally posted by Globox@Jun 11 2004, 12:18 AM
I'll break it down since you don't seem to get what he did.

He went to the Tag page on Lou's site.

He Selected all the tags text

He pressed CTRL+C

He went to his site

He his "add reply" in the "Rules" topic

He hit CTRL+V

He hit "Add Reply"

*some time goes by, then he get's my PM... both of them*

He goes to his post

He hits "Edit"

He mixes things up, removed things, everythings lookin' good now

He comes here and claims wrong has been done to him

Why is it that whenever you think you're being a genius and proving me wrong that there is absolutely nothing to prove? HE EDITED IS POST. DO YOU GET THAT? Point out a time that you have proven me wrong?

Edit: I don't claim to own the concept of tagging. You saying I do really just shows how little you grasp this situation. I do, however, claim to own the entirety of the text AND images on Lou's TAG page - I MADE IT, I OWN IT.

:lol:

You are so funny!

Did you forget that in Invision Power Board when ever a user makes a change to a post it says !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this post has been edited by (User name here) on (date and time here) so if I did change it then how come the edited mark is not THERE?!?!?! Answer that smart ass!! I'm really getting pissed now!

#175355

Originally posted by babypapichulo@Jun 10 2004, 05:24 PM

You are so funny!

Did you forget that in Invision Power Board when ever a user makes a change to a post it says !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this post has been edited by (User name here) on (date and time here) so if I did change it then how come the edited mark is not THERE?!?!?! Answer that smart ass!! I'm really getting pissed now!

Not if you're an admin/moderator.

#175356

Originally posted by Globox@Jun 10 2004, 07:18 PM
I MADE IT, I OWN IT.

you sure do but unless you copyright it, there isnt a damn thing you can do but complain..

#175357

Originally posted by ibanezcollector@Jun 10 2004, 05:26 PM
you sure do but unless you copyright it, there isnt a damn thing you can do but complain..

Do you know what Copyright is? The copyright is the authors at point of creation. Copyrights are different from Patents, bro.

#175359

id break the tension but looks like u got it under control...

#175360

Copyright is a form of protection provided by the laws of the United States (title 17, U.S. Code) to the authors of “original works of authorship,” including literary, dramatic, musical, artistic, and certain other intellectual works. This protection is available to both published and unpublished works. Section 106 of the 1976 Copyright Act generally gives the owner of copyright the exclusive right to do and to authorize others to do the following:

To reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords;

To prepare derivative works based upon the work;

To distribute copies or phonorecords of the work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;

To perform the work publicly, in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and motion pictures and other audiovisual works;

To display the copyrighted work publicly, in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, including the individual images of a motion picture or other audiovisual work; and

In the case of sound recordings, to perform the work publicly by means of a digital audio transmission.

In addition, certain authors of works of visual art have the rights of attribution and integrity as described in section 106A of the 1976 Copyright Act. For further information, request Circular 40, “Copyright Registration for Works of the Visual Arts.”

It is illegal for anyone to violate any of the rights provided by the copyright law to the owner of copyright. These rights, however, are not unlimited in scope. Sections 107 through 121 of the 1976 Copyright Act establish limitations on these rights. In some cases, these limitations are specified exemptions from copyright liability. One major limitation is the doctrine of "fair use," which is given a statutory basis in section 107 of the 1976 Copyright Act. In other instances, the limitation takes the form of a "compulsory license" under which certain limited uses of copyrighted works are permitted upon payment of specified royalties and compliance with statutory conditions. For further information about the limitations of any of these rights, consult the copyright law or write to the Copyright Office.

#175361

Originally posted by Globox@Jun 10 2004, 07:23 PM
I didn't bash you for stealing a 3D model. I suggest you go and actually read all of the posts with an open and unbiased mind - hopefully you'll understand then. I ASKED if you had permission to USE it (often that is the wisest coarse of action when using SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK). You then chose to result to childish name calling and to indulge in "holy wrath" without ever actually adressing the issue. I then found, by myself I'll add, that you did indeed have permission to use it! How's that for some detective work? All you had to do was read a little and post the part which gave you permission. Can you guess what would have happened then?

ok your right, wait no your not

I dont have to prove myself to anyone.. I know what I did was right and you were trying desperatly to prove me wrong, which you didnt..

See globox I can post stuff here where you are starting crap.. Its really getting old.

This attitude of yours is tiresome.

Im done

#175362

I hate to mess up this little brawl between you three, but I think its a mod's job to sort these things out.

#175363

honestly guys. get off your soap boxes. you can be the greatest designers in the world, but that doesn't honestly mean ****.

if you have a personal problem with one another, take it to pm's. even though our inbox is smaller than the brain cell count of some people around here, I'm sure you can find a way to cram in all your belittling I'm-going-to-pretend-like-I'm-better-than-you messages to satisfy yourselves for awhile

people break rules all the time. that doesn't mean its right to do so. in fact its not. I design sites just like many people on this board. I put long hours into the code that I write. sometimes its not worth going after people who steal code. yes it sucks they have to resort to that sort of behavior, but save yourself time and energy for a phenomenon you can't control. people that do this will eventually realize, through legal action or otherwise, that they really arent learning anything at all

#175364

Originally posted by Globox@Jun 11 2004, 12:25 AM
Not if you're an admin/moderator.

DAMN YOU!!!

Better yet

F U C K Y O U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

You are such an ass!

I never edited My post! And if I did then you should of thought of that when you saw my post for the first time and taken a picture of it!!!!!!!!! :rant:

Then send me a pm with the pic, incase I did Edit It you have proff that I did copy it word for word! Or even come here and Post the pic here like you did when iFido ended you that pm that you loved so very much! :rant:

B I T C H !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I know that there is no escaping my fate! You want mt out so bad!!! I do not know why the hell you do if did nothing to you! For saying what I said I might get kicked out..

#175365

Originally posted by Globox@Jun 10 2004, 07:30 PM
Copyright is a form of protection provided by the laws of the United States (title 17, U.S. Code) to the authors of “original works of authorship,” including literary, dramatic, musical, artistic, and certain other intellectual works. This protection is available to both published and unpublished works. Section 106 of the 1976 Copyright Act generally gives the owner of copyright the exclusive right to do and to authorize others to do the following:
To reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords;
To prepare derivative works based upon the work;
To distribute copies or phonorecords of the work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;
To perform the work publicly, in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and motion pictures and other audiovisual works;
To display the copyrighted work publicly, in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, including the individual images of a motion picture or other audiovisual work; and
In the case of sound recordings, to perform the work publicly by means of a digital audio transmission.
In addition, certain authors of works of visual art have the rights of attribution and integrity as described in section 106A of the 1976 Copyright Act. For further information, request Circular 40, “Copyright Registration for Works of the Visual Arts.”
It is illegal for anyone to violate any of the rights provided by the copyright law to the owner of copyright. These rights, however, are not unlimited in scope. Sections 107 through 121 of the 1976 Copyright Act establish limitations on these rights. In some cases, these limitations are specified exemptions from copyright liability. One major limitation is the doctrine of "fair use," which is given a statutory basis in section 107 of the 1976 Copyright Act. In other instances, the limitation takes the form of a "compulsory license" under which certain limited uses of copyrighted works are permitted upon payment of specified royalties and compliance with statutory conditions. For further information about the limitations of any of these rights, consult the copyright law or write to the Copyright Office.

ok your saying copyright is different than patents.. and

ok lets see

he displayed your work, which was literary since it did involve text, it was pictorial, since it did involve pictures, and it was graphical..

So how is a copyright wrong..

You truly are an idiot..

#175366