[rant] - Tired Of The Insinuations And Lies

For many years, I have been an active member of the GUI enhancement community. I have contributed HUNDREDS of works, which are still distributed in original and updated form, on the net.

Lately, tho, it seems a few kids want to sully my name by spreading trashy gossip and inuendos about my character in order to defame my position. This attempt at disillusionment is sad, and I am NOT going to sit idly by and let those people disrespect me or my freinds any longer.

The vicious attacks have questioned my creations or lack thereof. Well, the list is varied, and if your not some ****, you'd know that I have created, enhanced and helped with many of the files you use or have used in the past. I have also posted numerous 'How-To's' with screenies to show how I got my results. When someone messages me, I gladly offer up a file they request. Hell, even some of the websites you frequent have my files/creations embedded. But, to those select few who disregard me as elitist, the fact that I even mention this is snobbish. In that case, I suppose noone can talk about their work, eh?

Now, I openly admit that, lately, I have not been creating the vast number of files I once did. Mostly that is because I have a family, now. So, how does that make me any less a member of this community? How is what I've done any less important? I'm not stagnant, I'm just not churning things out like I used to because, unlike some of those who continue their barrage of attacks, I have a life outside this board. That life includes a family, job, and acting. Sorry, but this comes last in that list. I care about our community and all the incredible works being created, but I havent got the time to contribute as much as I'd like to. Ahh, but there I go again, tooting my own horn...Pffft!

The other argument is my so-called elitist attitude towards posters. Hmm. That's a good one. First of all, how can anyone truely emote in a faceless and internationally visited forum? If you take my posts as rude, maybe it is YOU who have the issue. I am blunt, yes. I hate being vague...how is that wrong. I tell it like it is. Plainly. If I seem crass, it is usually because I am trying to save time. Maybe I should re-read my posts and try to find this so-called attitude, but I really dont have the time.

The 'flamers' also include, in this argument, the fact that I have posted having "hundreds of files related to Aqua". Apparently, in their reality, me having them is elitist, and mentioning that I have them is even more rude. How? I am offering them up to the community. I'm saying "Here, who wants them?" All I need is a resource to upload them. I'd re-initiate my Hotline Server and give full guest access, but my ISP rotates my IP now, due to my history of hosting servers on my personal computer.

Funny thing, to. I host all those files, give up all my bandwidth to multiple users, lose my connection to the net due to over-usage...but I'M the elitist snob? Yes, I was a little upset that once my ISP cut me off noone cared enough to help out with my billings except 3 people out of the hundreds who came to the server, free of charge, but that's old news. I'm over it.

Point ending...

I love this community and all those who frequent it.

I don't hate a single soul who visits here. not one. Even the 'flamers'.

I havent deleted posts I find inflammatory because I give people the freedom to speak their minds.

The only posts I delete are duplicates.

I am ABSOLUTELY appreciative of all the creators who visit our site(Jeff, Moby, Smoke, Yamaguchi, Marvilla, etc...).

I dont pick favorites.

I want to see this community flourish.

I can't wait to see what's coming next to our app suites.

I invite debate, but not attacks.

I appreciate the devil's advocate and different points of view.

I listen.

And finally, I am not the man you think I am.

So, can we call an end to this nonsense? I'll take my head out of my a$$ if you will.

See? Humor. I even have that...

Note: My post may be edited, but their will be no removal of text. Only additions.

#11473

I agree and stand by you 110%, Duckie.

#11483

Same thing here.

#11484

hey!

i'm a **** around here & as such i can't say i know you since a long time etc... but the only point that i'll light out is that i've red many post on those boards & you're part of every intersting discussion but moreover, u're a good moderator since you are always objective (to my mind) & u are also a good source for me when i seek specific infos or files so my conclusion is:

you're right to post this to clear the situation but (there is always a "but" in my conclusions) i think you just have to ignore all those "attacks" cos i assume whoever is a little bit intersted in "aqua stuff" has at least once been helped by your posts.

so the "real member" (i don't consider myself as one,as long as i'm a ****) just knows you & respect you...& i think it's the most important.

& remember, fame has always been folowed by hate & jealousy, so you should be close to be famous....

#11485

Simpy right at All.

I'm with you man.

#11491

MageGuru, Spellbound, and ieub, thank you.

ieub, to reply;

Normally, I wouldnt have cared. The problem is that some of the people disrespecting me took it to an extreme by involving other sites in their rhetoric and unfounded disdain. Some of those people work here, and they still havent apologized. Anyway, I feel once this disdain became personal, as it obviously has since they decided to post about me elsewhere, I had a right to defend my principles. Not to mention that fact that my heritage was slighted(I'm jewish) and that the posts they are commenting in have NOTHING to do with me.

Hopefully everyone will grow up and we can move on to more important things...but i guess we'll see.

again, thank you all for your support.

#11493

Duckie, I can only think of Black Flag's Rise Above lyrics when I read your opening post:

it goes something like this:

"jealous cowards try to control. rise above. we're gonna rise above. they distort what we say. rise above. we're gonna rise above. try and stop what we do. rise above, when they can't do it themselves. we are tired of your abuse. try to stop us, it's no use. "

maybe a bit too much, but it got me through some major bull**** stuff. Just don't let stupid people get you down, there's plenty of others who appreciate what you do. Thank you for your effort and time. You rock.

#11495

Originally posted by lombdude@Jan 27 2003, 07:41 AM

"jealous cowards try to control. rise above. we're gonna rise above. they distort what we say. rise above. we're gonna rise above. try and stop what we do. rise above, when they can't do it themselves. we are tired of your abuse. try to stop us, it's no use. "

LMAO...I'm an old sk8 rat from back in the late 80's, so I remember that song well. Great one.

Thanks

#11497

Duckie,

We live in an age where any original work stays original for a very short time before is gets ripped off and taking away from its creator, most of the time not even given the credits to the creator. There is not much we can do about it once you release something it is out of your control where that something will end and in what form. What they can't take away is the fact that you can say, I did that, I was the first.

People know who you are, they know of your work and your addition to the community, you can be proud of yourself, can they say the same?

#11520

Originally posted by Telmo@Jan 27 2003, 10:32 AM

We live in an age where any original work stays original for a very short time before is gets ripped off and taking away from its creator, most of the time not even given the credits to the creator. There is not much we can do about it once you release something it is out of your control where that something will end and in what form. What they can't take away is the fact that you can say, I did that, I was the first.

People know who you are, they know of your work and your addition to the community, you can be proud of yourself, can they say the same?

Actually, Telmo, we've begun to see a trend.

All of this started happening about 2 months ago. Ripping, stealing, lying, manipulating...

Makes me think that some of the ****s are tired of seeing us old fogies at the helm...

#11610

Originally posted by Duckie@Jan 27 2003, 07:26 AM

For many years, I have been an active member of the GUI enhancement community.  I have contributed HUNDREDS of works, which are still distributed in original and updated form, on the net.

Lately, tho, it seems a few kids want to sully my name by spreading trashy gossip and inuendos about my character in order to defame my position.  This attempt at disillusionment is sad, and I am NOT going to sit idly by and let those people disrespect me or my freinds any longer.

The vicious attacks have questioned my creations or lack thereof.  Well, the list is varied, and if your not some ****, you'd know that I have created, enhanced and helped with many of the files you use or have used in the past.  I have also posted numerous 'How-To's' with screenies to show how I got my results.  When someone messages me, I gladly offer up a file they request. Hell, even some of the websites you frequent have my files/creations embedded.  But, to those select few who disregard me as elitist, the fact that I even mention this is snobbish.  In that case, I suppose noone can talk about their work, eh?

Now, I openly admit that, lately,  I have not been creating the vast number of files I once did. Mostly that is because I have a family, now.  So, how does that make me any less a member of this community?  How is what I've done any less important? I'm not stagnant, I'm just not churning things out like I used to because, unlike some of those who continue their barrage of attacks, I have a life outside this board.  That life includes a family, job, and acting.  Sorry, but this comes last in that list.  I care about our community and all the incredible works being created, but I havent got the time to contribute as much as I'd like to.  Ahh, but there I go again, tooting my own horn...Pffft!

The other argument is my so-called elitist attitude towards posters.  Hmm.  That's a good one.  First of all, how can anyone truely emote in a faceless and internationally visited forum?  If you take my posts as rude, maybe it is YOU who have the issue.  I am blunt, yes.  I hate being vague...how is that wrong.  I tell it like it is.  Plainly. If I seem crass, it is usually because I am trying to save time.  Maybe I should re-read my posts and try to find this so-called attitude, but I really dont have the time. 

The 'flamers' also include, in this argument, the fact that I have posted having "hundreds of files related to Aqua".  Apparently, in their reality, me having them is elitist, and mentioning that I have them is even more rude.  How?  I am offering them up to the community. I'm saying "Here, who wants them?"  All I need is a resource to upload them.  I'd re-initiate my Hotline Server and give full guest access, but my ISP rotates my IP now, due to my history of hosting servers on my personal computer. 

Funny thing, to.  I host all those files, give up all my bandwidth to multiple users, lose my connection to the net due to over-usage...but I'M the elitist snob?  Yes, I was a little upset that once my ISP cut me off noone cared enough to help out with my billings except 3 people out of the hundreds who came to the server, free of charge, but that's old news.  I'm over it.

Point ending...

I love this community and all those who frequent it. 

I don't hate a single soul who visits here.  not one.  Even the 'flamers'.

I havent deleted posts I find inflammatory because I give people the freedom to speak their minds. 

The only posts I delete are duplicates. 

I am ABSOLUTELY appreciative of all the creators who visit our site(Jeff, Moby, Smoke, Yamaguchi, Marvilla, etc...). 

I dont pick favorites. 

I want to see this community flourish.

I can't wait to see what's coming next to our app suites.

I invite debate, but not attacks.

I appreciate the devil's advocate and different points of view.

I listen.

And finally, I am not the man you think I am. 

So, can we call an end to this nonsense?  I'll take my head out of my a$$ if you will.   

See?  Humor.  I even have that...

Note:  My post may be edited, but their will be no removal of text.  Only additions.

id like to come clean in this chance.

i've been against duckie a lot, for long time, being pissed off at him for the reasons he never explained untill lately and now i can clearly see it here. He wasnt the most pure soul out there, having some outbursts and superior sarcasm on people or n00bies quite often, and keeping himself distant from people he felt they arent good enough for him.

But nobody is perfect and like him, i've had my **** going on as well, and i can clearly see that duckie has changed more than enough lately.

I've been updated with with his stories for a while now and gradualy noticed the other side of the person, yet still decided to stay very upset with him as if he personaly hurt me, as if i have no career to persuit, gf to love and demo reel to finish .

Many people knew me for being hostile towrds him due to the "reasons" i mentioned above. But this 'forgiveness' type of thread of his isnt his first, and this one in particular is obviously an end to a wicked era.

So after growing up a lil (soon birthday), chilling out and getting tired of having a spike up my ass, i would like to appologise for every negative, agressive and nerrow-minded behaviour of mine towrds you dude.

by saying this, i must note i have never ever ripped, nor steal from anyone including you duckie (maybe upgrading iceman's yz toolbar once - but we are amigos :P ).

thats all.

hope for good.

#11625

Originally posted by Goku+Jan 28 2003, 05:19 AM-->

QUOTE(Goku @ Jan 28 2003, 05:19 AM)

#11632

Thank you Kye and Goku.

Let's not forget, that my post wasnt completely selfish either. I want to include EVERYONE on the site in our re-found freindships. All of us have snapped, all of us have been judgemental, and all of us make mistakes.

Let's ALL be a little more patient, caring, and thoughtful.

#11633

My life's ambition is to destroy Duckie, and everything Duckie stands for. He's a pretty decent guy, I know, but when I heard that he likes "The Cure" I decided to take immediate action.

#11634

What's wrong with The Cure?

Although I don't like them as much as Depeche Mode.

#11635

Heh, I guess Clockwise is upset 'cause we're not gonna have battles anymore, so he had to interject.

BTW, I am a Depeche Fan since 1981...The Cure is...ok. They suck now, after Robert Smith got married.

#11641

I agree with Duckie on this, I know Ive been a ****head before but Im sure I can change that. Peace then dudesters!

#11702

Well I haven't really been openly hostile to Duckie but then I haven't been friendly either...I've been here at Aqua-Soft for a pretty long time (at least I think it's been a while) and to be honest I have bad-mouthed him quite a few times coz frankly I thought he was a jerk..

But I've come to realize that people are not always who they seem and I'm sorry for anything that I may have done to offend you dude....

Peace brother,

Siddharth

(BTW I've never ever stolen any of his works etc...)

#11898

Phah!

I'm gonna rip everything Duckie has and claim he stole it all from me and trash his name in every forum I can find. How dare he supply all this good stuff for free, how dare he give out good advice, and worst of all the bastard has never even been rude to me!!! WTF?

Just where do you get off not dissing me or giving me any ****? I hate you! If I'n not maligned or have my manhood ridiculed within 24 hours you're for it

You know you're problem? Youre just too nice and helpful to the likes of me and I won't stand for it any longer.

Signed:

Upset from WA.

#11914

quite frankly, I have no clue when all this started and when it ended/will end(?).

#11920

Peace to you Taha, Smeggy and Sidd.

Thanks for the replies.

Smeggy, this ones for you:

Your mind works like lightning. One brilliant flash and it is gone.

cheers, mates

#11938

Well if you are going to mention Depeche Mode and The Cure, as meaningful bands of the 80's, don't forget the malconforted, maladapted but excellent music of The Ramones.

#11942

Your mind works like lightning. One brilliant flash and it is gone

Aaaah, finally I feel part of the fold

#11947

@Smeggy :

did you see how i put you down?

i think mine is really bundys like :

Somewhere in the middle QUOTING you

#11954

Originally posted by VideoMann@Jan 29 2003, 04:12 PM

Well if you are going to mention Depeche Mode and The Cure, as  meaningful bands of the 80's, don't forget the malconforted, maladapted but excellent music of The Ramones.

I'm so old I consider the ramones 70's, not 80's.

Think CBGB's...

#11959