Shumai Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 wow i just read some intersting news at http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/10/12/cherryos/index.php. Apparently this software will allow you to do what VirtualPC does for mac, except reversed. And it claims to run at 80% the speed of the host os. I am a PearPC user, and i am hoping this is good news to the os x emulation community. the price tag is $49, but i was unable to download/purchase this software because of all the traffic the site was getting, they even posted this on the front page "Our Server is getting hit with high traffic, and some people are trying to hack in too, so please be patient, we are working on it. We wont give up - CherryOS Team !" well anyway check it out the site is http://www.cherryos.com/ Link to comment
Flarex Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 has anyone actually tried the program? I have a wierd feeling that its a scam. And if it isn't what will happen to our beloved pearpc developers? And how is that company not yet sued by apple? Link to comment
Shumai Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 at the cherryos site, you can watch a cherrypc demo and see the program in action. Link to comment
mubach Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Quote: I SMELL A RATCherry OS' claims seem far too good to be true, c'mon 80% of the hosts speed AND full hardware support? Methinks its just a quick hack of PearPC in an attempt to make money. I would love to be proven wrong though. Link to comment
dappleyard Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Not sure - I think there's a chance there server may be down because they have recently been mentioned on Slashdot.org. I'd love it to be true though! - Is there any real reason why Cherry OS are more likely to be sued than PearPC? - Or is it because PearPC is not exclusively designed to run OSX.... Link to comment
Keith Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 "Our Server is getting hit with high traffic, and some people are trying to hack in too, so please be patient, we are working on it. We wont give up - CherryOS Team !" ..the Slashdot effect Link to comment
Shumai Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 have you watched the intro video? http://movies.vx30.com/cherryos/cherry_os.html it seems very professionally made and when the full site was still up, i had a chance to browse around it was very nicely set-up. this and the $49 price tag lead me to believe that this is not a scam. but i'll see how well it runs once i get my hands on it. i'll be sure to post how it goes. Link to comment
ZiUL Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 i'll see how well it runs once i get my hands on it. i'll be sure to post how it goes.Did you buy it? Link to comment
lid Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 If they even manage to get G4 emulation at half speed they would be doing well and as I see it superseed pearpc. I'm a little apprehensive though and look forward to seeing some real world demonstrations. There's some talk of it simply being a scam or reworked pearpc, I'm not too sure. Here's hoping.. Link to comment
Shumai Posted October 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Did you buy it? Not yet, i have been trying to purchase it, but the site hasnt fully reopened yet so that i could do so. but i hope to try it out soon. Link to comment
Menge Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 CherryOS: Interview With Creator, Plus ScreenshotsMe: "Mr. Kryeziu, I've noticed a striking similarity between CherryOS and PearPC, just to be totally sure, here, none of the source code in CherryOS was taken from PearPC?Kryeziu: "That's right; none of the code was taken, it's all original."Me: "I've noticed numerous claims of 80% the speed of the physical CPU while emulating the PowerPC architecture..."Kryeziu: "Well that 80% could be anything, it could be the RAM, the processor bus--"Me: "I guess my question is, sir, what sort of real Mac hardware could you compare the emulated hardware to in terms of performance? Now I understand that clock speed isn't a scientific way of determining performance, but could you give me a rough guess? Let's say you had a 3 GHz Pentium 4, well, would CherryOS yield a speed equivalent to, say, a 500 MHz G3? More, less?Kryeziu: "Like you just said, we've tried a 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 computer, and about equal to that is a 1.2 GHz G4, and then 80% of that would be around 900 MHz."Me: "So, to clarify, using CherryOS on a 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 would be like using a 900 MHz G4?"Kryeziu: "Yes."http://www.apple-x.net/modules.php?op=modl...order=1&thold=0sounds fishy. plus, the "beta" screenshots below are EXTREMELY similar to PearPC Link to comment
Autumnmist Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 have you watched the intro video? http://movies.vx30.com/cherryos/cherry_os.html it seems very professionally made and when the full site was still up, i had a chance to browse around it was very nicely set-up. this and the $49 price tag lead me to believe that this is not a scam. but i'll see how well it runs once i get my hands on it. i'll be sure to post how it goes.Hmm... the $49 price tag makes me think exactly that -- it's a scam -- especially since the creator of CherryOS admits that it won't be distributed yet because it's still in beta. In addition, the preformatted harddrive image that CherryOS comes with are the EXACT SAME images that PearPC uses.The CherryOS creator says that "PearPC inspired" him and its code "helped him move forward" -- if this is true, then he's breaking the GPL license for PearPC. It's illegal for him to use any of PearPC's GPLed code to sell a commercial product. Link to comment
Autumnmist Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 This poster on Slashdot has a bit to add as well:Re:A Report From Maui (Score:5, Informative)by cmholm (69081) Alter Relationship on Tuesday October 12, @08:23PM (#10509284)(http://www.mauiholm.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday January 17, @03:50AM)MXS, the company behind CherryOS, Maui X-Stream, and the vx30.com web hosting service, isn't showing me a brick-and-mortar so far. Hitting the Google caches, I find 'contact' pages that alternately list a Wailuku and a Lahaina office, both of which were copyright 2003. I tried the Wailuku address during lunch. The office was empty, sign removed from door, and no listing on the building directory. I may try the Lahaina address for fun over the weekend. Link to comment
dappleyard Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Also, that introductory video, interestingly, shows no example at all of the alleged speed of the program. Link to comment
exograpix Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Today i have seen cherry OS at www.cherryos.com a emulator running panther, anyone have used it earlier and how good it is. Link to comment
rjohnstone Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 I give it 1 week before Apple sues them out of existance.You cannot legaly install OS X on anything other than genuine Apple hardware.On top of that, they want to charge you $49.95 for something you can download for free... "PearPC". Here is the press release. It screams... "Hey Apple... come and sue us!!!" MXS Inc. announces CherryOS 1.0October, 08 2004 NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEADIATE RELEASE Contact: Jim Kartes, 866-661-5699 [email protected] Media contact same. Maui, HI (DATE) MXS today announced the immediate availability of CherryOS software. CherryOS is a software translator that allows you to install Apple's Operating System on the x86 computer architecture. To put it simply you can now run Apple's award winning Panther OS on your PC! This breakthrough in OS development now gives home users, software developers and web designer's ultimate flexibility in both the operating system and hardware platform you use for your personal computer or testing environment. CherryOS runs Panther as a virtual machine on your Windows PC. This virtual machine has full network capabilities including the ability to share folders and access the web. The virtual machine also has complete access to the computer's hardware resources including, Hard Drive, CPU, RAM, Firewire, USB, PCI, PCMIA BUS and RJ45/Ethernet and Modem. Arben Kryeziu, CherryOS inventor and a software developer, got tired of carrying both a Mac and a PC around with him, so he invented CherryOS. “Think about it,” says Arben. “Now about 600 million PC users can have the Mac advantage. One computer to use all software and if PC users would use Mac software to get email, perhaps they would avoid viruses, Trojans and spyware.” He went on to say that, “You can build and test applications for a Mac on your development PC, test web site design for Mac web browsers without having to buy the hardware, run OS X, the world's best Operating System, on a less expensive hardware platform and use your favorite Mac apps on a PC.” Pricing and availability CherryOS is now available only on line at www.cherryos.com as a download, for $49.95. (Mac software not included) About MXS MXS is a software development company specializing in video streaming software. Playerless-streaming.org ranked our vx30 encoder as the best in the world. The products of Maui X-Stream can be viewed on www.vx30.com Link to comment
liquidplasmaflow Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 This is just unbelievable... don't they know that Apple will sue them? Link to comment
exograpix Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 But i feel it is only a emulator like many other not look alike like ydock or objectdock and there should be no legal objections till OSX is licensed, more over it is in benefit of APPLE as more users can have of feel of MAC OSX and lateron buy their setups. Link to comment
borninhalloween Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 is this thing fast?? Link to comment
LoofyGun Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 This is just unbelievable... don't they know that Apple will sue them?And why exactly would they sue them? As long as the OS is legally purchased i see no problems in it. Link to comment
wiebeest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 According to PearPc.net and Emaculation.com it is bogous & fake.There seems to be no copy available yet, check their website cherry OS website for yourself.They suspect it to be a commercially revamped PearPC, but again there hasn't been anybody able to test it, since there's no copy available yet...But using common sense "...CherryOS has been tuned for performance. You can expect to get about 80% of your processors power when working in the Apple Environment. For example a 3.2ghz P4 would run as fast as a 800 MHz G4 machine..." (from cherry OS website is not very likely since PearPc does 1/15th at best.But who knows, wouldn't it be great to run OS X acceptably on x86 pc's? Link to comment
rjohnstone Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 And why exactly would they sue them? As long as the OS is legally purchased i see no problems in it.OS X cannot be installed on NON-APPLE hardware.Doesn't matter if you legaly purchased it or not.Apple's license for OS X is very specific and clearly states that OS X may ONLY be installed on APPLE hardware.While I know a lot of us have done it on PearPC, it's still in violation of the software license. See screenshot of Apple's license for details.Remember... just because you paid for OS X, doesn't mean you own it.It just gives you the legal right to use it under the terms stated. @wiebeestI wouldn't be surprised if this was a hacked up version of PearPC. The screenshots did look a bit suspect. And it is interesting that there is no download to try or even purchase for that matter. Link to comment
wiebeest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 @wiebeestI wouldn't be surprised if this was a hacked up version of PearPC. The screenshots did look a bit suspect. And it is interesting that there is no download to try or even purchase for that matter.My point exactly. Also the current assumption on both PearPC.net and Emaculation.com is that it's either a hacked PearPC of just a Hoax. Link to comment
Unbeliever Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 This is just unbelievable... don't they know that Apple will sue them? did someone call my name? anyway if it`s not vaporware it`s one hell of a bait for Apple and it won`t be a week (in an unlikely case that it`s real) before Apple takes everything, including their pants. EULA cites that OSX can be run only on APPLE hardware. PearPC goes around that by saying it`s a POWERPC emulator. Smart move if u ask me Link to comment
liquidplasmaflow Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 did someone call my name? Not exactly. And not only this in violation of the Mac OS X EULA, isn't it in violation of the hardware in some way? I'm lot a licensing genius, but isn't just emulating the hardware a violation by itself? Link to comment
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