I was very involved in Arch Linux for a while. It's a great distro, still about the same as when I left it, on last look. If you want to learn about the guts of a distribution, it's a good choice. Right now my machines use Ubuntu, since I don't have as much time to putz with them, and they're a bit on public access now, and it's easy for other people to use. I've been semi-keeping in touch with Whatah, last talked a couple months ago. He's doing very well! I don't know how much he wants me to share, but he's graduated and has a sweet job doing security work at....a place that could really use it. ;-) And what's the deal with this MacThemes? Are we not satisfied with Aqua now?