[zexe]

also i notice that the running indicator only turns on if the application has a window, apps docked to systray do not show as "running"

[JcRabbit]

Hah! Well caught, thank you!

I was comparing shortcuts against the regular tasklist instead of the process list.

[zexe]

another idea: you could make different separators available, mainly something that would be less wide than an icon slot.
i bumped a load of icons and the running tasks to the right... and swoosh, covered all my screen

[JcRabbit]

zexe, on Jul 24th 2009, 02:31 PM, said:

another idea: you could make different separators available, mainly something that would be less wide than an icon slot.
i bumped a load of icons and the running tasks to the right... and swoosh, covered all my screen

The new icon spacing feature should help a lot with that, no?

Problem is that separators in Nexus can actually display personalized icons instead of a simple theme provided image (assuming the theme provides separator images, of course).

This 'personalized separator icon' idea makes more sense in the Winstep Xtreme version of Nexus, where a separator tile can be the 'parent' of a sub-dock (i.e. you click on the separator icon and the associated sub-dock opens or closes). In such a case, it's always a good idea to associate the separator with an icon that represents the contents of the attached sub-dock.

This is *one* of the reasons why separators in Nexus have the same width as other dock items.

[zexe]

i did obviously tweak down the icon spacing setting (thumbs up for that) and now working to setup standalone stacks to group up the icons.
on a 1680x1050 screen with icons size at 36 pixel i am running out of screen easily (mainly because when i work i get too many windows open).

Also, while using "above other windows" it goes above the screensaver as well.

This post has been edited by zexe: 25 July 2009 - 01:29 PM

[zexe]

another suggestion:
make a selectable option for any shortcut to "activate/switch to process". there are applications (for instance outlook.exe) that i would rather have it popped up rather than started another process. sometimes it's easy to miss it in the tasks list (if selected to be shown).

others obviously would be more suitable to get another task started from them.

[JcRabbit]

zexe, on Jul 30th 2009, 12:50 PM, said:

make a selectable option for any shortcut to "activate/switch to process". there are applications (for instance outlook.exe) that i would rather have it popped up rather than started another process. sometimes it's easy to miss it in the tasks list (if selected to be shown).

others obviously would be more suitable to get another task started from them.

This is actually the responsability of the application itself. For instance, Outlook will not allow you to start more than one instance of itself (nor do Winstep applications, for that matter).

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on a 1680x1050 screen with icons size at 36 pixel i am running out of screen easily (mainly because when i work i get too many windows open).

You would be better off running Winstep Xtreme, in that case. It will allow you to have multiple docks, categorized sub-docks, tabbed docks, etc, etc...

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Also, while using "above other windows" it goes above the screensaver as well.

I would say this is by design. IMO, it would not happen if the screensaver itself set itself to be 'Always on top' as it should.

Anyway, are you guys ready for the official public beta 2?

[zexe]

is that a rhetorical question, right?

PS. and my outlook shortcut opens it multiple times.

This post has been edited by zexe: 30 July 2009 - 09:57 PM

[JcRabbit]

Nexus 9.7 public beta 2 is now available from the Winstep web site.

An official announcement should be made during the weekend. Note that Beta 1 will expire on August 1st.

This post has been edited by JcRabbit: 31 July 2009 - 02:50 AM

[zexe]

is it normal that the separator item while on tiles appearance shows like a missing tile?

[yanquis1972]

woohoo! thanks jc. 2 things i notice, though:

1) leopard dock still doesnt 'reserve screenspace' properly, when i maximize windows. (magnify effect seemed to work fine, tho ive gotten to where i prefer the simple zoom now)

2) re running indicators - they work great, BUT: since many of us here at least are using standalone stack, is it possible to add that (maybe optionally) as an 'exception'? for example right now no less than 13 icons are lit up even though im only running 4 apps.

[JcRabbit]

1 - The problem with reserve screenspace and the Leopard theme has to do with the theme itself: the Leopard dock background image actually extends above the icons, but it is fully transparent so it cannot be seen. I think you will be able to understand this better if you look at the Leopard background image.

2 -Not sure I understand, sorry. Are you saying that some icons are lit even though they belong to applications that are currently NOT running?

[yanquis1972]

no, simply that because standalone stack is always running on any stack, it shows various closed folders as 'running', which kind of pollutes the space & renders it unusable, or at least unattractive to use imo.

so this is what my dock looks like w/ indicators on even though i am running no task other than chrome -- http://img222.images.../capturekgc.png

obv it's not a bug, it'd just be nice to be able to add standalone stack as an exception.

[JcRabbit]

I think it would be silly to create yet another exclusion list (as we have already for tasks, window thumbnails, etc...) for the running indicators. Perhaps in the next version I can add a setting in the Properties Panel of each item to 'Do not show running indicator' or something like that.

[yanquis1972]

yes, that would be nice. as it is i really can't use running indicators because it's just too cluttered & inaccurate to be useful. since a lot of people are using the standalone stack program (or should be if they aren't) i think it'd be worth it to make it possible to disable the indicators underneath those icons.

[Impheatus]

@yanquis1972: Why don't you try using Stacks Docklet instead of Standalone Stack? I don't know if it's compatible with Nexus but you should give it a try.

[mps69]

Impheatus, on Aug 6th 2009, 08:18 AM, said:

@yanquis1972: Why don't you try using Stacks Docklet instead of Standalone Stack? I don't know if it's compatible with Nexus but you should give it a try.

Pretty sure the stacks docklet doesn't work with this dock.

[Impheatus]

well, that's a shame as that Docklet is superb and it would work with running indicators.

[yanquis1972]

Impheatus, on Aug 6th 2009, 08:18 AM, said:

@yanquis1972: Why don't you try using Stacks Docklet instead of Standalone Stack? I don't know if it's compatible with Nexus but you should give it a try.

i dont know if stacks docklet has been upgraded since i used rocketdock (and the above poster is correct, it isnt compatible w/ nexus anyway), but standalone stack is much better imo, as you can explore w/in the folders, which is a huge plus.

[zexe]

i stumbled upon another issue:

tasks being shown on dock, grouped up
i had 3 pdf's open
right click on the icon that grouped them
noticed the option "close similar" and imagined it would end acrobat task and the 3 windows. instead it killed only one of the 3 pdf files open while also killing nexus dock itself.