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Hi this is a grate app thanks matoga! I downloaded rocket dock just to try it but what do i chose for it to be behind RK launcher

EDIT ive found a way: its to rocket dock 100% opaque with no icons and to put RK on top, but can eny one tell me a better way thanks

[Phoshi]

EDIT: Shit. 3D hud dock HAS no RD port :<
EDIT2:wtf happened to the swear filter?
Also, I haxxed the 'test' thingy a bit, works nicer now.

I assume it'd be possible to configure this, or have it made possible, to reflect the dock icons properly, too?

EDIT3: Much nicer. My dock is unvisible, so I stretched it across the whole screen, and have one or two requests -
I have it set to be behind OD (Name is 'ObjectDock', btw) but it's reflecting my icons when they get bigger, and it looks silly.

I also use Samurise to have a little clock, song time, etc, and that's below the reflection (Which, at as close to too fast as I can get it without it stopping updating is almost realtime, yum as hell), so would it be possible to have a list of things for it to be behind/not reflect? (I wouldn't mind running another process to get my dock icons reflected :>

[ciano]

Hi Matonga,
well it's a cool application wut u did...anywa I found something maybe interesting for you.
It's a tutorial from the creator of Toy'd ad that guy ar amzing see wut they did


http://it.youtube.co...h?v=EKtxa5ilW2Q
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=YDRUKMm425w&feature=related
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=uGJGfNWkS4Y&feature=related

also they wrote this tutorial I dunno if it can help u

http://blog.vallat.info/?page_id=57

see ya and create some good stuff!

[Greg27]

Phoshi;505495 said:

EDIT: Shit. 3D hud dock HAS no RD port :<
EDIT2:wtf happened to the swear filter?
Also, I haxxed the 'test' thingy a bit, works nicer now.

I assume it'd be possible to configure this, or have it made possible, to reflect the dock icons properly, too?

EDIT3: Much nicer. My dock is unvisible, so I stretched it across the whole screen, and have one or two requests -
I have it set to be behind OD (Name is 'ObjectDock', btw) but it's reflecting my icons when they get bigger, and it looks silly.

I also use Samurise to have a little clock, song time, etc, and that's below the reflection (Which, at as close to too fast as I can get it without it stopping updating is almost realtime, yum as hell), so would it be possible to have a list of things for it to be behind/not reflect? (I wouldn't mind running another process to get my dock icons reflected :>

I think OD skins work on RD. I'm using the 3D HUD dock on RD now...

[matonga]

Quoted from Rocket Dock's web page:

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Compatible with MobyDock, ObjectDock, RK Launcher, and Y'z Dock skins

This is about Rocket Dock, not my mirror effect.

Can anyone send me both an ObjectDock skin and it's corresponding port to RocketDock? That would help me a lot to give support to those skins on MaskTool.

[Phoshi]

http://reverse84.deviantart.com/art/OS-X-L...83566?offset=30

http://whiteraven92.deviantart.com/art/OS-...etdock-75956637

I don;t think these are exact ports, but they look very similar, so hopefully they'll work <_<

(Any luck on the do-not-reflect list?)

[Phoshi]

*coughbump*
More people need to see this, and I bring delicious chocolate.

I mean information.

Under DWM-Vista, not only does this get transparent windows, and... well, everything, it's also lighting fast. I turned the DWM off and full speeds lagged by an awful lot, wheras they were smooth under the DWM. That's pretty neat.

[matonga]

Phoshi;505582 said:

http://reverse84.deviantart.com/art/OS-X-L...83566?offset=30

http://whiteraven92.deviantart.com/art/OS-...etdock-75956637

I don;t think these are exact ports, but they look very similar, so hopefully they'll work <_<

(Any luck on the do-not-reflect list?)

Ok, let's see:

Added support on MaskTool to use Object Dock skins (in addition to Rocket Dock skins, both are now supported). I don't have Object Dock so I can't test it, but I hope it works.

Based on what you tell, I have sadly realised this, and I'll make a statement on first post of this thread:

Matonga's MirrorEffect is not compatible with Windows Vista with Aero enabled.

I'll try to see if I can work around that, to make it work as pretended.

What you describe looks more like the software posted in Mirror Demo in the Comunity Applications section. Please keep an eye on that software.

[schmrom]

matonga;505927 said:

Matonga's MirrorEffect is not compatible with Windows Vista with Aero enabled.

Erm, I don't understand why you've written that. It is compatible. I have Vista Ultimate with Aero enabled. All windows are mirror correctly and everything is working

[matonga]

schmrom;505943 said:

Erm, I don't understand why you've written that. It is compatible. I have Vista Ultimate with Aero enabled. All windows are mirror correctly and everything is working

Ok, this is getting really confusing to me.

Now I need someone with technical knowledge to answer this question:

Does Windows Vista with Aero enabled, blit only non-layered windows, when doing a BitBlt from screen without using the CAPTUREBLT flags?

Code looks like this:

' Get access to the desktop window

desktop_window = GetDesktopWindow



' Get desktop's Device Context

desktop_dc = GetWindowDC (desktop_window)



' Blit a portion of the desktop to an offscreen bitmap

BitBlt (memory_dc, ..., desktop_dc, ..., SRCCOPY)



' Release desktop's Device Context

ReleaseDC (desktop_window, desktop_dc)

So, as it can be seen, I use SRCCOPY flag but no CAPTUREBLT flag, so overlayd windows are not blitted. This is per Windows XP documentation, but I know nothing about Windows Vista, so I don't know if Windows Vista + Aero will or will not blit overlayd windows.

From Phoshi screenshots it seems Aero blits the overlayd windows even without the CAPTUREBLT flag, so it defeats the purpose of my program.

So I need confirmation from other Vista + Aero users.

PS: is it possible to install Vista and XP on separate partitions? How much is the minimum disk space required for Vista + Aero + .NET 2.0? I want to have a testbed to answer these questions myself.

[schmrom]

matonga;505949 said:

So I need confirmation from other Vista + Aero users.

PS: is it possible to install Vista and XP on separate partitions? How much is the minimum disk space required for Vista + Aero + .NET 2.0? I want to have a testbed to answer these questions myself.

I tried the mirror effect with all the programs I have on my computer, even the layered ones. There are reflections for all windows (even videos are reflected).

Vista and XP on seperate partitions? Yes it is possible. About 5GB should be enough for a standard Vista installation.

[DZGH_Operator]

I recommend 10GB for Vista.

I have Windows Vista Business x86 and your mirror effects works here as well.

[matonga]

@schmrom:

This may sound odd but... can you send me a screenshot of your current dock, with the mirror effect?

[devrexster]

Hey matonga, u may go for the VMWARE way to get a virtual machine. I know for a fact that vista+VSExpress2008 requires 6GB (I mean the size of the .vmx file )

And I think ur app is extremely compatible with aero - infact it runs better

[Gotier]

i have rklauncher but my miror effect dont work on my dock just the windows ! help me plz !

[matonga]

@Gotier:

It doesn't work like that. Please look at the screenshot in the first post.

If you mean your dock icons not being reflected, that's done with SirSmiley's iReflector, please download iReflector to do that.

[Gotier]

ok thanks i think work with rklauncher if i understnad, i'm french !

[Björn]

Doesn´t work with Windowblinds 6 here. Whenever I click on a window the mirror of the Window disappears, untill I don´t click on the window.
If I unload WB it´s works like a charm.

[Draclan12]

Wow, this is awesome. It would be cool if this worked with areo on Vista, that way it could be all shiney-transparency-blury like.

[EyesOfARaven]

Works beautifully... when Windowblinds is off. This is rather important to me, as is the mirror effect! I need them together. I beg you to fix that.

As well, the zooming could probably be fixed by some mathishness if you ask the user to input how many icons are zoomed and to what pixel height, it would at least let you calculate an approximation.

Perhaps if you made an accompanying docklet you could ask the dock for some info as to it's width? I'm unsure about this one.

I know not everyone likes to do this, but if you open-source it this will thrive quite a bit, as it is an in-demand effect since it has been in Leopard. If you ever leave the project for good please remember to do this!

Thanks for making this, I wanted my dock to do it beyond anything - now if it only worked with my other things

Edit:

I have a correction on the others' description of the windowblinds incompatibility issue. The dock doesn't show the window until you stop having the mouse held down to move it, yes - however, it also doesn't show the window controls and border, etc., just the contents. Everything handled by windowblinds is absent in the reflection.