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#41 User is offline   jobytoss Icon

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 08:50 AM

Hello! Thank you for this nice software!

I have some questions:

1. How can i see the town name showing near the temperature (can i write it down somewhere)?
2. How do i use the fast searching of indexed folders (i see no search option)?
3. Is there a way of filtering the files extensions when adding a folder to the menu (and option for showing also the ones inside the subfolders) ? The reason for this is for example when you want to add a folder with 1000 files and want to see only the *.jpg files; or you want only the *.exe files shown. This would be cool.
4. Option for a tray icon might be in handy.
5. I have to right click on an item to show contextual menu (for settings). Can you make the contextual menu available when one right clicks on the top of the RunMe's window also (or anywhere else)?
6. When you make a new item and change your mind if you choose cancel, the item is still being created (New Item). This is not cool.

I also made a Romanian translation for RunMe 0.9.2 and uploaded it here: h..p://rapidshare.com/files/110243276/Romanian.ini

Thank you!
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#42 User is offline   devrexster Icon

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 09:20 AM

edit : sorry wrong place
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#43 User is offline   KSoft Icon

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 10:01 AM

@jobytoss

Thanks much for your translation (I will add it to RunMe soon) and interest in RunMe :)

1. How can i see the town name showing near the temperature (can i write it down somewhere)?

You need to change weather item parameter to:
%s in Moscow

to see any text after or before temperature.
Just please save %s and use any text instead of "in Moscow"

2. How do i use the fast searching of indexed folders (i see no search option)?

You should add folders to list on indexing tab (in Settings) and add Run item.
There are small bug. Add Run item, close Properties dialog and open this dialog again.
Then check "in Vista Style". And place this item last.

3. Is there a way of filtering the files extensions when adding a folder to the menu (and option for showing also the ones inside the subfolders) ? The reason for this is for example when you want to add a folder with 1000 files and want to see only the *.jpg files; or you want only the *.exe files shown. This would be cool.

Currently no but that's really cool, thanks for idea. I think I can add extensions like parameters of Folder Menu item.

4. Option for a tray icon might be in handy.

Tray icon now works only in "instead of Start menu" mode.

5. I have to right click on an item to show contextual menu (for settings). Can you make the contextual menu available when one right clicks on the top of the RunMe's window also (or anywhere else)?

Certainly it's possible but whether there is a necessity for it?

6. When you make a new item and change your mind if you choose cancel, the item is still being created (New Item). This is not cool.

Hmm... Right. I only want to simplify creating operation for user if he/she really want to create link :)

I also made a Romanian translation for RunMe 0.9.2 and uploaded it here: h..p://rapidshare.com/files/110243276/Romanian.ini

Sorry, what name can I use for Author text in this translation?

Thanks!
-Kostya.
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#44 User is offline   jobytoss Icon

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 10:59 AM

Oh my God! Your answer was so quick! Thank you!

1. It works. How can i change the icon for this item (option is not selectable)?
2. Works a bit slow (i compare this function's speed with Locate32's but it's not fair, i know :), sorry) but it's very useful.
3. I 'll be patient :) . Will there be a help file (or a quick ReadMe) where we can find out more about parameters that can be used for all the functions?
4. Tray icon has its "fans", so it will make RunMe more popular.
5. I asked this because "Delete" and "Properties" are so close and i might click on the wrong one and lose my Item.

Author=joby_toss (joby_toss@yahoo.com) is ok.

7. Hotkeys for some of the options (show/hide menu, fast search) and global hotkeys for direct launching of items would be nice.

Thanks!
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#45 User is offline   Alion Icon

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 11:28 AM

Thanks for this great tool.

Easy to handle, extremly usefull eyecandy and no installation necessary.
Thats the way a h a h I like it ahaha.

:-)
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Posted 28 April 2008 - 07:16 PM

Hi,

at first, thanks for this great programm. You've done a fantastic job!!!

Is it possible to use RunMe as a Luncher for usb-sticks?
Anything to observe?

What is the latest release of RunMe and when do we espect the next one?

Best regards from Germany :-)
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#47 User is offline   KSoft Icon

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 09:24 PM

@jobytos, Sorry that I answer in not right order, I just need think more about new functions

Thank you Alion and 660207! :)

@66020, I can't talked about RunMe's future now because I'm working on IcyRadio currently :)
Sure, RunMe can be placed on flash drive, just use "relative path" checkbox if you choose icon and file/document to run. All this stuff should be placed on one disc (disc letter will be relative).

And best regards to you from Russia! :)
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#48 User is offline   660207 Icon

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 05:21 AM

KSoft;499101 said:

... just use "relative path" checkbox ...


Hello,

please help me to find this "checkbox". Don't know where it is. :(

Have a nice day :)
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#49 User is offline   ingo2008 Icon

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 01:01 PM

Am -very- happy with RunMe 0.9: low on memory usage, quick to launch, nice looking graphics!

However: changes appearance from left side to top side just to try. Now, RunMe starts, the menu appears for about 1 second and then disappears totally... :-) Any way to change it back to original? I tried changing the x and y values in the config.ini but no luck...
Regards from Germany, Ingo
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#50 User is offline   KSoft Icon

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 07:47 PM

Thanks guys! :)

@660207, I mean checkbox at bottom part of Open File dialog (when you choose file to run or icon/png file). Try to resize this dialog if you can't see this checkbox.

@Ingo2008, Sorry! Please try "Position=0" in config, it's left-side position.
What theme do you use?

Thanks again!
Best regards, Kostya.
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#51 User is offline   660207 Icon

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:16 PM

Hi Kostya!

Yes, that seems to be the trick - it'll only displayed if I resize the dialog, drag the frame with the mouse a little - strange, Russian magic windows :D

But, isn't it much easier to exchange x: by %drive% with an editor automatically? (search and rename)?
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#52 User is offline   ingo2008 Icon

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:37 AM

ingo2008;499152 said:

Am -very- happy with RunMe 0.9: low on memory usage, quick to launch, nice looking graphics!

However: changes appearance from left side to top side just to try. Now, RunMe starts, the menu appears for about 1 second and then disappears totally... :-) Any way to change it back to original? I tried changing the x and y values in the config.ini but no luck...
Regards from Germany, Ingo


30.04.: problem (very easily...) solved:
1. renamed config.ini to config.bak just in case
2. re-boot
everything ok again :-)
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#53 User is offline   KSoft Icon

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 10:22 AM

@ingo2008, Sure, because Position will be set to 0 by default :)
Anyway, can you please tell me what skin do you use?

@660207, Yes, that's easier way but I need to implement user friendly option.
On check box,strange, I'm afraid that it's Microsoft's feature :) But in Vista all works well.
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=KSoft;499242]@ingo2008, Sure, because Position will be set to 0 by default :)
Anyway, can you please tell me what skin do you use?

I use the "R inspired" theme, it looks very nice!
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Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:00 PM

KSoft;499242 said:

@660207, Yes, that's easier way but I need to implement user friendly option.


Yes, this would be nice. Release tomorrow? ;););)

Hope, you will find time to do this.
Don't forget - you're program has a lot of fans :)
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 10:29 PM

New version is awesome! Great work, Kostya!
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#57 User is offline   KSoft Icon

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Posted 02 May 2008 - 08:26 AM

@Kondragor, Thank You! :)
I hope it still work in Win2k (I did not test a long ago).

@ingo2008, Thanks, please try this Skin.ini (for "R inspired" theme)
I've corrected some values so top position should work good now:
http://ksoft.nm.ru/tmp/skin.ini

@660207,
>>Yes, this would be nice. Release tomorrow?

lol. I want to correct some things in IcyRadio at first.

>>Hope, you will find time to do this.
I hope too :)

Thanks!
-Kostya.

//Edited: Sorry! Please redownload skin.ini (in case if already). I've made some changes.
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#58 User is offline   Alion Icon

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 12:51 PM

Hello folks,

I really like runme.
Usefull eyecandy.. :-)

I suggest this:

Please substitute the Start-Button COMPELETY!
So, theres NO way for users to reach the menue presented in the Start-menue.

If this is done, its necessary to give the user of runme
the optional possibility to get rid of the system-tray icon (in /settings of runme)
and prevent the configuration panel from being opened
by right-clicking the border of the runme-window itself.
This could be done by a OPTIONAL password-question -before- opening the configuration-panel.

You might ask.. What for??
To prevent my kids and friends to pimp-up my WXP-configuration
for one example,
by simply clicking start/settings/controlpanel.


We love you :-)

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#59 User is offline   bobsobol Icon

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 06:13 PM

Hi Konstantin,

As requested I moved this here. For those following this thread, I asked K' if it would be possible to have a separate click action for groups compared to their hover action, so a "My Documents" group could take you to "My Documents" in explorer as well as having "My Pictures", "My Downloads", "My Video" etc items within it.

He suggested this was possible to add, but something similar already exists in the form of the "as Popup" checkbox on "Drive or Folder" type groups.

My problem is that in the orientation I keep RunMe, the popup disappears when I move the mouse near it, as though RunMe windows have a higher priority over the pointer even when a menu is displaying over the top of them.

The exact position configuration you asked for is that the menu is a "Right" menu positioned high on my screen. As I said earlier, this is something I got to like when I used BeOS.

To emphasis how much I like this I shall compare it's pros and cons to other methods of application launching:-
Many people love the new Vista Start menu, I don't. It's constantly re-organising me menus which are now buried even further down the list than they were in XP. Classic Win95 start is more helpful to me as I can arrange it how I like. A couple of clicks is still easier than typing a bit, waiting to see if the right icon appears then switching from kbd to mouse to click that off.

The easies means of launching programs that I recall was Amiga or Acorn RISC OS where applications were represented in the FS by one Icon and dropped right on your hard disk which you organised as you liked. That was all you had to do to install. OS X still keeps this to a large extent, and Apps and Utilities are always on the finder menu.

Quick Launch is great for your most frequently used programs, especially the little ones, OS X style Zooming Docks took the neXT dock to the point where this is useful for most stuff, and unlike traditional QuickLaunch, Docks or Warfs is both clear and doesn't take up too much space. If you have 30-100 programs it still isn't practical for them all, and I don't find Stacks much help... again, the Apps and Utilities menu in Finder is easier.

RunMe allows me to create structure for types of applications. It's Win95 Start Menu, but beautiful. I can link favorite folders for data, and programs of differing types (Games, Office, Software Dev, System Tools etc.) and I can have the same programs grouped by company (MS, Adobe, Sun, Corel, Symantec, O&O, Roxio, Ahead, GNU etc). Like the OS X Dock it hides away to nothing when you don't need it, not even a "Start" button, and yet it's always there when I need it.

The big problem with Windows is that your OS is your Home, it's nice to lay your home out the way you want it. With MacOS, Linux, Amiga, RISC OS, BeOs, neXT etc that's pretty simple. With Windows, you pretty much need to slipstream a custom install to get anywhere near having your Hard Drive organised the way YOU want it, and if you do too much that isn't the way MS normally does it many apps get upset. Hence we are forced to represent our directory structure in ways which differ from that which they are layed out in the File System. This is a great way of doing this.

Thank you KSoft. :)

My only issue, is that I would like my drives in a menu without having to go through My Computer in Explorer and waiting for it to determine all the characteristics of each device when I know I just want to look on my flash drive, and I want to be able to go straight to my Videos without going through My Documents and waiting for Explorer to fill in the thumbnails for all my Photos and Documents for those funky little "folder contains" like icons. But sometimes, I really do need to get just to my profile, documents, computer too. The simplest solution is to have an "Open" item at the top, I know. But it would be nice if I could click it off, or hover over it for sub-items.

The "as Popup" works (aside from disappearing in my configuration) but it's rather too detailed too. What I like is that my profile contains items which I don't put there, and never use, but it also contains stuff I need to get to all the time. Likewise My Computer often contains items I never want to see or touch (swap partitions on attached drives, the control panel and shared folders, digital camera import virtual folders even when the camera isn't attached etc.) it's all detracting, and irrelevant. With RunMe, I don't have to wade through numerous registry fixes to get rid of unwanted shell objects, or add "Hidden" attributes to files that the system needs in folders I use just so they don't get in my way, I just don't add them to the list.

Anyway, there you have it. Both praise and criticism in the same post. Thank you for a fantastic program, and I hope my comments and the screeny can help make this uber tool even more uber.

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Posted 03 May 2008 - 06:30 PM

Oh, BTW. In my Screeny above, "bin" and "bin(x86)" are another form of shortcut I use when I'm doing stuff in the command line. They are just HardLinks to "Program Files" and "Program Files (x86)" since command line stuff often needs me to navigate to those locations and it's not easy (not easy enough for me) when there are spaces in the directories names. "bin" is very short, and standard on POSIX platforms, so it becomes pretty instinctive.

The mess on that menu also illustrates my annoyance with Doze. I use Windows, Program Files(or their shortened aliases), Users and Dev-Cpp quite a bit, but the rest of it is just OS junk as far as I'm concerned, it should be hidden away in system areas, a boot folder in Windows or somewhere in etc not spread all over my drive so that I have to wade through this detritus. Moving, or deleting it is not advantageous either as it upsets bits of Windows sooner or later. :(
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