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If you really must know, NeXTStep was first, it had the first "dock". Afterstep and Windowmaker copied from that. Litestep on windows copied afterstep and renamed it to the wharf.
NeXT was bought by apple and OSX is the evolution of the first one (NeXTStep) and has no ties to the xfree window managers (afterstep or windowmaker). Either way, Apple owns the rights to the original (NeXT) dock and the OSX dock.
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contrasutra 
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 03:44 AM
LOL. WindowMaker was meant to be a NeXT clone with Drag n' drop (unlike Afterstep). Didn't that troll realize that.
Though "Warf" came from Afterstep, not litestep.
Though "Warf" came from Afterstep, not litestep.
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 03:57 AM
Yup, you are correct on the rest of it. (Y)
That Brandon is an asshole.
That Brandon is an asshole.
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OlivierMDVY
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Posted 05 July 2003 - 02:43 PM
No more development on Y'z Shadow ?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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DarkVageta
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Posted 06 July 2003 - 03:57 PM
i dont see that happping anytime soon 
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Posted 06 July 2003 - 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by contrasutra@Jun 30 2003, 07:31 PM
Lets do a protest. We can all meet at Apple headquarters and march against their unfair treatment of Mr. Y, Jef, and others.
"No blood for Aqua" , and the more effective "YOU SUCK".
Im serious. Wheres Apples headquarters at?
Lets do a protest. We can all meet at Apple headquarters and march against their unfair treatment of Mr. Y, Jef, and others.
"No blood for Aqua" , and the more effective "YOU SUCK".
Im serious. Wheres Apples headquarters at?
cupertino, california
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Posted 08 July 2003 - 11:18 PM
This is a very sad and very unfortunate discovery on my behalf today. I was running Y'z happily for several months now, finally getting everything the way I wanted to. Next thing I know, I come to this site this morning and find out that the development for the software is no longer supported...
What a horrible shame! I must say that I hope this turns out to be a prank and, indeed, the letter was not really from Apple.
What a shame...
What a horrible shame! I must say that I hope this turns out to be a prank and, indeed, the letter was not really from Apple.
What a shame...
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Posted 13 July 2003 - 04:13 AM
all this proves is no other dock in comaparison can imitate the Apple Dock as good as Y'z by the way what version did he stop on? and i think the only way anyone will ever be able to get that source code without M. Y. facing legal troubles is some hacker that can get the source code 
? Ya know if Xerox was only smart enough to sue apple way back then there would only be on kinda platform and all efforts and creativity would merge into one making it better than any apple or any windows to date.
? Ya know if Xerox was only smart enough to sue apple way back then there would only be on kinda platform and all efforts and creativity would merge into one making it better than any apple or any windows to date.
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 11:57 AM
Hy.
I have one ideea about how YzDock could be developed. I believe that if it becomes an open source project and changes it's type from "a dock that copies the functionality of Mac OSX's dock" to something like "a reall kewl WinXP dock", and also state in the readme file (or about box) that it has similar functionality to the OSX Dock which is copyrighted by Apple (and also give a link).
This way, instead of being a ripoff of the OSX dock, it will be a "similar" dock, and also it would give credit to Apple (as i believe their problem was that they where not mentioned in the readme file).
Ok, i might be waaaaay off track, but it seems a logical solution.
Anyway, why didn't Apple send any letters to Stardock (the creators of ObjectDock) and to Moby (creator of MobyDock) ???
P.S. If it becomes an opensource project, it has even more chaces of becoming the best dock available for WinXP and Win2k3 users.
I have one ideea about how YzDock could be developed. I believe that if it becomes an open source project and changes it's type from "a dock that copies the functionality of Mac OSX's dock" to something like "a reall kewl WinXP dock", and also state in the readme file (or about box) that it has similar functionality to the OSX Dock which is copyrighted by Apple (and also give a link).
This way, instead of being a ripoff of the OSX dock, it will be a "similar" dock, and also it would give credit to Apple (as i believe their problem was that they where not mentioned in the readme file).
Ok, i might be waaaaay off track, but it seems a logical solution.
Anyway, why didn't Apple send any letters to Stardock (the creators of ObjectDock) and to Moby (creator of MobyDock) ???
P.S. If it becomes an opensource project, it has even more chaces of becoming the best dock available for WinXP and Win2k3 users.
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Posted 19 August 2003 - 10:34 PM
I would like to tell all users that, we can't stop using Y'Z dock, this is one of the greatest thing I have ever seen. I believe that the only way to remember such good application is by not stop using it. I know this is late news for you, let me tell you that we should all be looking foward to make this even better. Apple is a great corporation, the only thing is that they are scared. I am buying an apple soon I still love Microsoft no matter what I am still going to keep using Microsoft Software. I am waiting for longhorn... That is all I want... For Mac Users that think that the whole world belong to them let me tell you... that you guys are not better... You still have a lot to learn about how computing works... Good luck to you all....
:woot: :surfer dude: be cool.... you never know if one day you have me in your way :evil:
:woot: :surfer dude: be cool.... you never know if one day you have me in your way :evil:
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Posted 20 August 2003 - 03:15 AM
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Originally posted by Mac_fan@Aug 19 2003, 10:34 PM
I would like to tell all users that, we can't stop using Y'Z dock, this is one of the greatest thing I have ever seen. I believe that the only way to remember such good application is by not stop using it. I know this is late news for you, let me tell you that we should all be looking foward to make this even better. Apple is a great corporation, the only thing is that they are scared. I am buying an apple soon I still love Microsoft no matter what I am still going to keep using Microsoft Software. I am waiting for longhorn... That is all I want... For Mac Users that think that the whole world belong to them let me tell you... that you guys are not better... You still have a lot to learn about how computing works... Good luck to you all....
:woot: :surfer dude: be cool.... you never know if one day you have me in your way :evil:
I would like to tell all users that, we can't stop using Y'Z dock, this is one of the greatest thing I have ever seen. I believe that the only way to remember such good application is by not stop using it. I know this is late news for you, let me tell you that we should all be looking foward to make this even better. Apple is a great corporation, the only thing is that they are scared. I am buying an apple soon I still love Microsoft no matter what I am still going to keep using Microsoft Software. I am waiting for longhorn... That is all I want... For Mac Users that think that the whole world belong to them let me tell you... that you guys are not better... You still have a lot to learn about how computing works... Good luck to you all....
:woot: :surfer dude: be cool.... you never know if one day you have me in your way :evil:
You like Microsoft software?
Even I hate it...
LongHorn so far doesnt seem like a big deal...
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Posted 20 August 2003 - 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by Mac_fan@Aug 20 2003, 12:34 AM
For Mac Users that think that the whole world belong to them let me tell you... that you guys are not better... You still have a lot to learn about how computing works... Good luck to you all....
For Mac Users that think that the whole world belong to them let me tell you... that you guys are not better... You still have a lot to learn about how computing works... Good luck to you all....
Well, Mr. Know-IT-all, get serious and learn about computers.
Go here and get this, then we can talk :pokey:
:6
Sorry if I sound harsh, but thats exactly how you sound. maybe you are just annoyed by some Apple-"133t"s, but you start to sound the same way. If that wasn't your intention, I will gladly apologize.
Have fun,
McTrinsic
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Posted 20 October 2003 - 11:36 AM
Yes if Mr Y can't fight Apple, he should just release his source code so that other people can improve it a a way that can beat out Apple :6
Anyway, you can still get 0.8.3 at various places on the net sooo suck that Apple.com
Anyway, you can still get 0.8.3 at various places on the net sooo suck that Apple.com
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Posted 20 October 2003 - 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by badapple@Oct 20 2003, 03:35 PM
Yes if Mr Y can't fight Apple, he should just release his source code so that other people can improve it a a way that can beat out Apple :6
Yes if Mr Y can't fight Apple, he should just release his source code so that other people can improve it a a way that can beat out Apple :6
Man, believeme, this has been discussed enough times and you dont want to get into that again... itll start another flame throwing offtopic derrailed thread...
Cheers
Seph