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#1 User is offline   AndreasV Icon

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 11:14 PM

Hiya all,

I have been really busy coding AveDesk version 1.1 lately. I have been fixing bugs ( the windows-in-taskmanager-bug is finally fixed :canadian: ) and have been adding features.

Currently I am at the point where I have to make some "critical" design decisions.

First of all, the clickthru-desklet-option (so when you click on a desklet, the click will really go to the window underneath the desklet). Should it be in AveDesk 1.1 or not?

Second of all, selection:
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Here you see a shortcut desklet that is in selected-state. The blue rectangle behind the icon indicates this (that image is customizable). Should this be for all desklets/docklets automatically done or just only for the shortcut / mountchecker?


Last one (for now :P ): label rotation. Is there someone -besides me- that even tried that option? (maybe a 90-degrees rotation only?)
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Posted 11 February 2004 - 11:28 PM

im not sure wut the first and third questions are :blink: but for the second one i dont think it should be for everything, just the shortcut/mount.
and id be glad to test it forya :woot: , it sounds great, i cant wait
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:12 AM

Looks great AndreasV...I'm not so savvy on this stuff yet, but I love this app! (Y)
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:33 AM

Personally, I think if it doesn't cost the app any significant amount of memory, the more options the better.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:34 AM

2. Yes include it, but I would prefer that would be like selected icons, instead of a image telling its selected :D
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:52 AM

hey andreas, for your options, icon highlighting sounds great would also be great if you could have a mouseover option for it. Also, it would be great if you could optionally have it ontop of the icon.

clickthru: never really understood why its an option of programs-i've never found it usefull.
label rotation: never needed it, can't see any need for me in future.

Also, i remember over at aquaxp discusion about something called desktop 'cliques' (basicaly little menus that slide open on your desktop) that i think you commented you might try, i think it would be great if implemented in avedesk.

keep it up, great work so far.
cya
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 02:04 AM

Hi Andreas, Thanx for your work on Avedesk and other projects.
1. Click-Thru would be great for having a meter or weather desklet always on top.
2. As long as it's customizable and can be toggled on/off it could be useful.
3. Cool idea!! I hope you include it!!
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 02:31 AM

Hi Andreas!! My opinions on your killer app:

CLICK-THRU:
I won't use it, but as mentioned, if it's not a major drag on resources, why not offer the option?

SELECT:
Right now when you single-left-click a shortcut / mountchecker docklet it opens directly a folder or image or whatever. I like this very much. If you implement the select option, please make it a> optional, and b> mouseover-select [with time-delay like windows default icon-select].... and c) optional single-click-select for those who still enjoy double-clicking to launch folder/appz, etc.

I love the select idea and think implementation should be optional on all desklets (again, if it's not a drag on resources) with the default naturally set to "no"

LABEL ROTATION:
I haven't used it yet, but who knows? 45-degree labels might look good with EYLO :canadian:

All the best to you.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 10:08 AM

you already have my opinion about the click thru :P i won't use it but if it's implemented...

for the "background" of the selected state i would suggest you to only make it availbable for desklets and not in standard. Many desklets (or docklets) wont need this option (cpu metter, mailcheck, clock, notes stickies...) so why put it available for the user?? let the programmer chose if this option is needed or not and i think when there is a need to have it people will ask for it quickly :P

Label rotation: i used it for my clock but it's a little buggy when you set a non roud angle (i was trying 25 30° and i had trouble with the background repetition)
It's a nice option but yeah maybe you should just put a "select" control with 0-90-180-270° to choose


For now i finished my courses!!!!!! OHHHHH YEEAHHHHH and i got about 3 weeks of holidays (i'll maybe pass one in spain) so i'm available to test your lastest release (lol if i don't have it yet :P), i only have a website to set up for my class to keep contact when we will be in germany, spain and england
Contact me on MSN
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 06:33 PM

Ive tried the rotation, I am not using it but I do like the option. I tried using it with my desktop drive setup to show the available disk space. I didn't use it because I found a work around in what I wanted to ultimately accomplish. I have two SysStats running over the top of one another. One has a transparent png image with just the drive label. The other has the drive png with the available space label and the (label is only visable on mouse over) option checked. When I mouse over the drive icon the label then switches or shows the available drive space. It works quite well and the labels were easy to line up and once you pin objects in Avedesk they stay there. You must change the one docklet to the transparent image last or there is no way to drag the docklet around the desktop.
I also like the selected state option your also speaking about, providing it doesn't affect the mouse over on the top icon. This would kill my above setup.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 06:55 PM

^^^^^
hehe, cool. me was playing since yesterday on the same idea. :)

ok, first off, love avedesk, keep it up.

hey, two things:

1. hierarchy of items
i use to overlay items. for example: docklet over shortcut
therefor it would be cool to moddify in the list of all items, which is on top and so on. right now it seems to me, that the hierarchy-oder is by chance. u know what iīm talking about: select one item, and say "move up" or "move down".

2. picture preview
for example for selecting the label. a preview would be cool.

ok, a multimedia-controll-thing...well, u talked about. i keep fingers crossed.

LABEL ROTATION: hm, donno. canīt thing about a case i would need it.

peace



EDIT:
ah, i forgot:
a "save configuration" to a specific file-name would be cool. and surly a "load configuration" thing, where the user can quickly switch to another config-file.

EDIT II:
hell, make it easy for us. this "change tab by mouse-over" idea is real fun. many possibility. i ask for this feature (as long i donīt get the "master-tab" funktion)
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 09:08 PM

First of all, wonderful app. If you're going to add something, it should be drag and drop support, so if I have a shortcut of a folder, HD, I could drag a file into it.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 09:19 PM

Thanks all for your great comments on this, you people :rock:

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1. hierarchy of items
i use to overlay items. for example: docklet over shortcut
therefor it would be cool to moddify in the list of all items, which is on top and so on. right now it seems to me, that the hierarchy-oder is by chance. u know what iīm talking about: select one item, and say "move up" or "move down".

Currently, Windows handles all the ordering of the windows. I will think about a way to make this a feature.

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2. picture preview
for example for selecting the label. a preview would be cool.

It will be like this: changing a setting immediately updates the desklet, so you can view the changes.

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First of all, wonderful app. If you're going to add something, it should be drag and drop support, so if I have a shortcut of a folder, HD, I could drag a file into it.

That's already in my private 1.1 test-build and it works pretty cool. I can even drag my clock into a MSN chatwindow to display the current time in my MSN chat :P.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 09:52 PM

cool, any new about the "master-tab"?


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Posted 12 February 2004 - 09:58 PM

Other than that it is silently removed currently? -_- :lol: just kiddin' :canadian:

Do you really want this master label btw?
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Posted 13 February 2004 - 06:03 AM

Andreas, will you be adding a shortcut key to the context menu item? (ie. Desklet Properties)
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Posted 13 February 2004 - 06:32 AM

Master label has what function exactly?
How about shortcut to network? Perhaps this is already implemented but I don't know how to operate it? I tried with a regular shorcut desklet and with the powdermount, but no results. ^.0
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Posted 13 February 2004 - 07:14 AM

^^^^^^
network? try this: link
play around with "Pdh".


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Posted 13 February 2004 - 07:47 AM

maybe i'm missing something, either in avedesk or judge's systats desklet.

i'm on a school lan and i want to be able to access folders on that network through avedesk. so far, no lo comprendo.... no dice. my bad?
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Posted 13 February 2004 - 09:11 AM

it does already :P

You can use the "browse" button to go on the network...

you can also setup a "shortcut desklet" with path like that:
\\\\\\\.exe
or
\\\.......\***.exe

and you'll have it :P
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